Would I get better results when using Vegas 4 to render as avi and then
convert to mpeg2 using something like procoder or just keep it simple and
use main concept plug-in for Vegas mpegs? Thanks for any answers.

In message ,
david.donegan writes
Would I get better results when using Vegas 4 to render as avi and then
convert to mpeg2 using something like procoder or just keep it simple
and use main concept plug-in for Vegas mpegs? Thanks for any answers.

AVI is not a video format, but a container. An AVI file can contain just
about anything (e.g. MPEG-1, MPEG-2 or indeed DV).

Once you grasp this, I'm sure that you'll appreciate that you question
is meaningless.
--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

Thanks for your usual snide reply. Let me explain, fellow amatuer. If I
output edited project as avi and then use procoder would it be better than
currently used main concept plug-in within Vegas to produce a quality mpeg?
Yes/no/don't know is what I'm looking for. If the latter, obviously I will
test both.

I'm not impressed with the technical fact that avi is a container, just get
to the real world scenario, as the both methods are different.

If you can't answer in an unsmartassish way don't bother. I have reason to
believe I am not the first person to notice you are a bit of a dick. Some
of your answers are helpful most have a hint of "know all done nothing",
even to the stage of discouraging an enthusiastic individual of not
attempting to earn money through his hobby.

Anyway, wasted enough time on you, don't start your usual string as I won't
reply to 'Mr. Insignificantation"
Love U

"Tony Morgan" wrote in message
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In message ,
david.donegan writes
Would I get better results when using Vegas 4 to render as avi and then
convert to mpeg2 using something like procoder or just keep it simple
and use main concept plug-in for Vegas mpegs? Thanks for any answers.

AVI is not a video format, but a container. An AVI file can contain just
about anything (e.g. MPEG-1, MPEG-2 or indeed DV).

Once you grasp this, I'm sure that you'll appreciate that you question
is meaningless.
--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

In message , sherlock
writes
Thanks for your usual snide reply. Let me explain, fellow amatuer.

ROFL....

Do you ever read what you write? Or are *you* an amateur at the written
word?

Here, let me help you since you have so much difficulty in
self-comprehension....

"Would I get better results when using Vegas 4 to render as avi"

What AVI? MPEG-1? MPEG-2? DV?

The only dick around here is your brain - you've got it well and truly
wedged right up your arse...

I repeat... "AVI is not a video format, but a container".

Hardly being smartassish. It's yourself demonstrating by your response
that you're truly clueless (and your ego has difficulty in realising
it).

Had you stated what format you've put in the AVI file then I (or indeed
others) could have given you a constructive response - but I guess you
haven't a clue about that.

And I note you *still* fail to say what type of video format that your
AVI contains - so obviously you *still* remain clueless. Sad....

The really funny thing is your Nick... Sherlock.... Priceless :-))))
--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

You are a real piece of "work", Morgan. I'm not kidding when I say that you
need to seek counseling. That piece of lumber on your shoulder just keeps
getting bigger and bigger. Don't bother replying with your trite "gene-pool"
whacks or other common usenet criticisms. They're just not clever anymore. I
really implore you to relax and release some of that self-importance that's
brewing inside you( a.k.a. "growing up").


"Tony Morgan" wrote in message
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In message , sherlock
writes
Thanks for your usual snide reply. Let me explain, fellow amatuer.

ROFL....

Do you ever read what you write? Or are *you* an amateur at the written
word?

Here, let me help you since you have so much difficulty in
self-comprehension....

"Would I get better results when using Vegas 4 to render as avi"

What AVI? MPEG-1? MPEG-2? DV?

The only dick around here is your brain - you've got it well and truly
wedged right up your arse...

I repeat... "AVI is not a video format, but a container".

Hardly being smartassish. It's yourself demonstrating by your response
that you're truly clueless (and your ego has difficulty in realising
it).

Had you stated what format you've put in the AVI file then I (or indeed
others) could have given you a constructive response - but I guess you
haven't a clue about that.

And I note you *still* fail to say what type of video format that your
AVI contains - so obviously you *still* remain clueless. Sad....

The really funny thing is your Nick... Sherlock.... Priceless :-))))
--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

In message , Ron writes
You are a real piece of "work", Morgan. I'm not kidding when I say
that you need to seek counseling. That piece of lumber on your shoulder
just keeps getting bigger and bigger. Don't bother replying with your
trite "gene-pool" whacks or other common usenet criticisms. They're
just not clever anymore. I really implore you to relax and release some
of that self-importance that's brewing inside you( a.k.a. "growing up").

Clearly with this sort of post you're once again demonstrating that you
have *nothing* to contribute to this (or any other) newsgroup AFAICS.

Nothing to do with self-importance BTW. I just think it's a shame that
useful and interesting newsgroups such as this are increasingly being
populated by folks who show that they anxious to demonstrate that they
have nothing of any usefulness to say.- just getting some sort of
satisfaction from making posts like this.

If you really do think that I'm full of self-importance - you might like
to consider what sort of light your post here puts *you* in.

--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

I think there's a couple of lines of answer to the original question
(which Tony well understood) in the following rant :-)

My view is that when you pay a good deal for something like Vegas 4,
it's best to keep it simple (KISS) and use the default codecs for the
various formats. These are MainConcept MPEG-2 for VCD and DVD (and for
VCD, MainConcept MPEG-1).

The original post (AFAICS) seemed to be making things very complicated
("render as avi then converting"... etc".

In addition, *within Vegas* the term "render" refers to the format used
for *display* within the Vegas program (you can change this with the
options), and not the output when you make.

I'm a great believer in the old adage "don't try to fix what's not
broken". The default codecs in Vegas 4 are (to me anyway) of excellent
quality.

EditStudio, however, recognise that their baseline codec leaves
something to be desired, and it's worth the extra £20 or so for their
own optional "better-quality" codec. Similarly Nero offer (at extra
cost) a better quality codec that that supplied with the baseline
product.

Quite frankly (though I rarely say so) I do get a bit concerned at the
number of folk who "tinker" with this and that. It takes me enough time
taking, editing and outputting video without constantly tinkering :-)

If I tinkered as much as some folk seem to, I'd never get any video
taken and a damn sight less VCDs, SVCDs, DVD-Rs and VHS tapes made. And
as I'm now retired, I *do* have the time :-)

In times past, you had to tinker with things like TNCGEng to get
reasonable quality, but these days everything is so much simpler (and
gives you better quality) without the pitfalls of tinkering.

Just MHO of course .... :-)