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Pinnacle DC10+ with 2K



 
 
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Old July 3rd 03, 08:40 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
BJ
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Default Pinnacle DC10+ with 2K

Will this capture card work with Win2000, I have seen conflicting
advice. The editing software with the card is StudioDC10+ and will not
install as won't the .inf for the drivers. On Pinnacle's site there's
a patch to get Studio7 with the DC10 card to run in 2000 but I guess
support for DC10+ editing is phasing out.
In any case when I used 98SE I could use the card but did not bother
with the editing apps, I use Premiere. Hence all I need is card
drivers, not patches for the Pinnacle apps anyone have an idea please
or do I consign more outofdate kit to the bin?
BrianJ
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Old July 3rd 03, 01:10 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Rob Hemmings
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Default Pinnacle DC10+ with 2K

"BJ" wrote in message
m...
Will this capture card work with Win2000, I have seen conflicting
advice. The editing software with the card is StudioDC10+ and will not
install as won't the .inf for the drivers. On Pinnacle's site there's
a patch to get Studio7 with the DC10 card to run in 2000 but I guess
support for DC10+ editing is phasing out.
In any case when I used 98SE I could use the card but did not bother
with the editing apps, I use Premiere. Hence all I need is card
drivers, not patches for the Pinnacle apps anyone have an idea please
or do I consign more outofdate kit to the bin?


Brian,
Having been through exactly the same hassle, here's the problem:
There are no official VFW (Video for Windows) drivers for the
DC10+ for W2k or XP, only WDM (Windows Digital Media).
This is not a problem if you're using Pinnacle Studio 7+ (ie
capture etc will still work fine), but means that Premiere and
other VFW-based editors can't capture via the DC10+, or
use it's built-in hardware MJPEG codec.
There *are* 3rd party VFW drivers for the DC10 'out there',
but personally, I haven't had any luck in using them.
Choices:
Dual-boot your system and have one partition with W98
and Premiere which you use exclusively for video work,
and a w2k or XP partition for everything else. If you do
this, you'll need a data drive/partition visible from both
w98 and w2k which, given the size of video files means
you'll have to use FAT32.
Google around and try and find 3rd-party VFW drivers
for the DC10+ which work under w2k (good luck!)
or
Bite the bullet and dump your DC10+ and buy a WDM-
supported capture card. If you're lucky enough to own a
DV camcorder that connects via firewire, you can in many
cases use your camcorder to do on-the-fly analogue capture
to DV via firewire, directly into Premiere. If your PC
doesn't have a firewire port, they're only £10UK.
HTH
--
Rob



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Old July 5th 03, 02:32 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
BJ
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Default Pinnacle DC10+ with 2K

"Rob Hemmings" wrote in message ...
"BJ" wrote in message
m...
Will this capture card work with Win2000, I have seen conflicting
advice. The editing software with the card is StudioDC10+ and will not
install as won't the .inf for the drivers. On Pinnacle's site there's
a patch to get Studio7 with the DC10 card to run in 2000 but I guess
support for DC10+ editing is phasing out.
In any case when I used 98SE I could use the card but did not bother
with the editing apps, I use Premiere. Hence all I need is card
drivers, not patches for the Pinnacle apps anyone have an idea please
or do I consign more outofdate kit to the bin?


Brian,
Having been through exactly the same hassle, here's the problem:
There are no official VFW (Video for Windows) drivers for the
DC10+ for W2k or XP, only WDM (Windows Digital Media).
This is not a problem if you're using Pinnacle Studio 7+ (ie
capture etc will still work fine), but means that Premiere and
other VFW-based editors can't capture via the DC10+, or
use it's built-in hardware MJPEG codec.
There *are* 3rd party VFW drivers for the DC10 'out there',
but personally, I haven't had any luck in using them.
Choices:
Dual-boot your system and have one partition with W98
and Premiere which you use exclusively for video work,
and a w2k or XP partition for everything else. If you do
this, you'll need a data drive/partition visible from both
w98 and w2k which, given the size of video files means
you'll have to use FAT32.
Google around and try and find 3rd-party VFW drivers
for the DC10+ which work under w2k (good luck!)
or
Bite the bullet and dump your DC10+ and buy a WDM-
supported capture card. If you're lucky enough to own a
DV camcorder that connects via firewire, you can in many
cases use your camcorder to do on-the-fly analogue capture
to DV via firewire, directly into Premiere. If your PC
doesn't have a firewire port, they're only £10UK.
HTH



Thanks Rob
In fact dual booting to 98/2K is exactly what I have to do already I'm
afraid for some apps since the DC10 is'nt the only ageing piece of kit
I have that needs 98.
I found a 3rd Party driver to run my 1996 Umax scanner in 2K so you
never know?
BrianJ
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Old July 8th 03, 06:57 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
BJ
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Default Pinnacle DC10+ with 2K

Well I got there at last - nearly:

http://drivermagic.co.nz/x/download?a=2034

Go to this NZ site and they claim to have a DC10 driver for 2000. It
installs fine according to Device Mangler but when I start Premiere
and Premiere cannot see the device. The card and the vcr worked fine
in 98. If anyone can suggest an alternative app for testing the DC10
in 2000 just to prove there is a VCR to PC link like a scanner test
does then please let me know. I don't want to spend ages
troubleshooting Premiere until I know this NZ driver is the real
thing,

Brian J
Hi Brian,
Please let the group know if you find anything! When I last
looked, many of the 'nearly working' drivers I found were based
on the DC30 - apparantly some of the hacked drivers for that
card can be used to drive the DC10 under w2k. Pinnacle
dropped the DC30 quite some time ago, and some 3rd-parties
wrote w2k drivers so they didn't have to throw their DC30s away.
I mention this as it may help in your searches.
HTH,

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Old July 10th 03, 04:51 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
BJ
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Default Pinnacle DC10+ with 2K

Me again the Drivermagic N.Z. files definitely work for DC10+ with
Windows 2000. I dug out an old magazine disk with MGI Videowave III as
a trial and I had a video on the PC screen straight away.
Premiere is giving me "Unable to connect to capture device" yet if I
move the DC10 & Premiere to a 98 PC evrything is fine. I can see a lot
more work ahead and out of time today unless there's a patch or
something?
Brianj

Hi Brian,
Please let the group know if you find anything! When I last
looked, many of the 'nearly working' drivers I found were based
on the DC30 - apparantly some of the hacked drivers for that
card can be used to drive the DC10 under w2k. Pinnacle
dropped the DC30 quite some time ago, and some 3rd-parties
wrote w2k drivers so they didn't have to throw their DC30s away.
I mention this as it may help in your searches.
HTH,

 




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