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Editing Freesat recordings



 
 
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Old March 21st 09, 10:29 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
MikeRead
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Default Editing Freesat recordings

Can a BBC 1 program for example BBC 1 breakfast news be recorded to PC hard
drive via a PC freesat decoder card and then edited directly by for example
pinnacle video editing application.

thanks
Mike


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Old March 21st 09, 11:02 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
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Default Editing Freesat recordings

In ,
MikeRead bashed on keyboard and typed:
Can a BBC 1 program for example BBC 1 breakfast news be recorded to
PC hard drive via a PC freesat decoder card and then edited directly
by for example pinnacle video editing application.

thanks
Mike


I would expect so If you can find a PC Freesat decoder after all the result
will be Mpeg 2

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Old March 21st 09, 11:54 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Jerry[_2_]
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Default Editing Freesat recordings

Trev wrote:
In ,
MikeRead bashed on keyboard and typed:
Can a BBC 1 program for example BBC 1 breakfast news be recorded to
PC hard drive via a PC freesat decoder card and then edited directly
by for example pinnacle video editing application.

thanks
Mike


I would expect so If you can find a PC Freesat decoder after all the result
will be Mpeg 2


Don't get me started on the miss selling of UK satellite services...

Of course he will, the only thing about 'Freesat' that is in any way
different to *FTA* [1] satellite reception is the EPG, Freesat is not
encrypted [2] like much of the BSkyB service - as such any DVB-S card
will be able to receive the service except for the EPG.

In fact, by buying into a Freesat *branded* satellite receiver one is
actually narrowing the readily available channels, there are many non
'Freesat' FTA channels that don't appear on the Freesat EPG because
the owners of the channels have not paid to be listed - for example
CNN is FTA [3] but will only become listed on 2009.03.25 when it
'joins' the Freesat EPG. Basically the 'Freesat' service is the
Electronic Programme Guide and a branded, firmware modified FTA DVB-S
receiver...

As for format, the cards output format will depend on the card but I
doubt any are using a non standard format. But just because the
incoming format is MPEG2 it doesn't follow that the card will output
MPEG2 files!

[1] FTA = Free to Air, No Encryption

[2] other than the ITV HD service, whilst the programme stream is not
encrypted, it uses a mask to hide from *some* DVB-S receivers - IIRC
the mask redirects the receiver to the correct programme stream).

[3] and, IIRC, has been since before BSkyB
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Old March 23rd 09, 12:34 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Rob
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Default Editing Freesat recordings


"MikeRead" wrote in message
...
Can a BBC 1 program for example BBC 1 breakfast news be recorded to PC
hard
drive via a PC freesat decoder card and then edited directly by for
example
pinnacle video editing application.


Assuming you use a card like the Hauppauge WinTV Nova-HD-S2 (but,
preferably with 3rd party software, such as AltDVB(free) or DVBviewer),
the answer is yes. Your video editor will need to support MPEG-2 files.
Cut-only editing is probably all you need.
As others have noted, 'freesat' is simply the EPG and any DVB-S card
will receive the full range of British FTA channels available on 28E. The
HD-S2 card I mentioned will also allow you to receive FTA foreign channels
which use the new DVB-S2 standard, too.
See the tools and guides sections at videohelp.com for more info.
HTH,
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Old March 26th 09, 07:20 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
MikeRead[_2_]
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Default Editing Freesat recordings


"Rob" wrote in message
...

"MikeRead" wrote in message
...
Can a BBC 1 program for example BBC 1 breakfast news be recorded to PC
hard
drive via a PC freesat decoder card and then edited directly by for
example
pinnacle video editing application.


Assuming you use a card like the Hauppauge WinTV Nova-HD-S2 (but,
preferably with 3rd party software, such as AltDVB(free) or DVBviewer),
the answer is yes. Your video editor will need to support MPEG-2 files.
Cut-only editing is probably all you need.
As others have noted, 'freesat' is simply the EPG and any DVB-S card
will receive the full range of British FTA channels available on 28E. The
HD-S2 card I mentioned will also allow you to receive FTA foreign channels
which use the new DVB-S2 standard, too.
See the tools and guides sections at videohelp.com for more info.
HTH,
--
Rob


Thanks for everybody's contribution. I have checked out the Hauppauge WinTV
Nova-HD-S2 card and see that it specifies a CPU of 3.2ghz P4. My CPU is a
2.8ghz Intel Dual processor, if the WINT TV software is single threaded
then I assume that my CPU will not be fast enough. I believe the card
supports DVB S. Does the sat dish fixed on a given satellite provide a
spectrum of TV channels some of which are DVB-S and some DVB-S2 and so it is
the channel which is tuned into that determines the encoding and thereby the
CPU decoding power required.


thanks

Mike


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Old March 27th 09, 09:10 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Jerry[_2_]
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Default Editing Freesat recordings

MikeRead wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
...
"MikeRead" wrote in message
...
Can a BBC 1 program for example BBC 1 breakfast news be recorded to PC
hard
drive via a PC freesat decoder card and then edited directly by for
example
pinnacle video editing application.

Assuming you use a card like the Hauppauge WinTV Nova-HD-S2 (but,
preferably with 3rd party software, such as AltDVB(free) or DVBviewer),
the answer is yes. Your video editor will need to support MPEG-2 files.
Cut-only editing is probably all you need.
As others have noted, 'freesat' is simply the EPG and any DVB-S card
will receive the full range of British FTA channels available on 28E. The
HD-S2 card I mentioned will also allow you to receive FTA foreign channels
which use the new DVB-S2 standard, too.
See the tools and guides sections at videohelp.com for more info.
HTH,
--
Rob


Thanks for everybody's contribution. I have checked out the Hauppauge WinTV
Nova-HD-S2 card and see that it specifies a CPU of 3.2ghz P4. My CPU is a
2.8ghz Intel Dual processor, if the WINT TV software is single threaded
then I assume that my CPU will not be fast enough. I believe the card
supports DVB S. Does the sat dish fixed on a given satellite provide a
spectrum of TV channels some of which are DVB-S and some DVB-S2 and so it is
the channel which is tuned into that determines the encoding and thereby the
CPU decoding power required.


A dish pointing towards (say) Eurobird 1 & Astra 2A-2B-2D at 28.2°E
[1] will receive all that is on that beam, the limiting factors are
a). what the LNB [2] can pick up and b). what the 'digibox' can
decode/decrypt. If you want to receive DVB-S2 programme streams you
will need a LNB that is capable of receiving S2 streams, it will also
receive S1 streams, you should not need two LNB's although you might
need a duel (even quad) LNB if you are either using a twin tuner -
like Sky + etc - digiboxes/cards or have a multi-receiver set up.

[1] in fact it will probably pick up other beams from geo-stationary
positions other than 28.2°E although reception will be far from optimal.

[2] the LNB is the part of the complete dish assembly that is mounted
on the arm out in front of the actual 'dish'.
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