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Problem Playing MPEGs



 
 
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  #11  
Old December 30th 08, 09:46 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
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Trev wrote:

VLC comes with ffdshow codec pack. Its quiet likely that the codec that
VLC is using is not available to the other players


Possibly, I am sure Iomega will resolve this with firmware updates but I
can't afford to take that chance and think the device will have to go
back. It doesn't do what it says on the box.

Geoff Lane

It's possible there are transmission errors within the mpeg TS file - have
you tried demuxing a file with ProjectX to eliminate errors and then
remuxing back to a mpeg2 PS file to play in the Iomega device?


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Old December 31st 08, 05:03 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
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Netmask wrote:

It's possible there are transmission errors within the mpeg TS file - have
you tried demuxing a file with ProjectX to eliminate errors and then
remuxing back to a mpeg2 PS file to play in the Iomega device?


Not seen the program before but managed a demux and ended up with an m2v
and mp2 file, haven't figured out yet how to remux though.

Geoff Lane

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Old December 31st 08, 08:44 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
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Netmask wrote:

It's possible there are transmission errors within the mpeg TS file -
have you tried demuxing a file with ProjectX to eliminate errors and then
remuxing back to a mpeg2 PS file to play in the Iomega device?


Not seen the program before but managed a demux and ended up with an m2v
and mp2 file, haven't figured out yet how to remux though.

Geoff Lane


any mixing program like Womble, Vegas etc. Google mpeg muxing or remuxing
for shareware and freebies.

You can rename m2v to mpv and mpa to make life easier for some editing
programs. There is a setting in ProjectX to this automatically - my
suggested settings for ProjectX can be found here
http://www.openwiz.org/wiki/ProjectX although this refers to the Beyonwiz
PVR it producers a TS file like most PVR's.

Also go to www.videohelp.com for a list of suitable software and general
help.



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Old January 1st 09, 07:10 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
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My daughter has a WinTV PVR900 device.

She recently recorded 4 programs, each play fine in VLC but using Windows
Media Player or an Iomega media player device (No computer needed) I get
major sound video sync problems.

What would be the reason for this.

Geoff Lane


It's a hauppauge product, and that issue is covered in their forums,
But basically the "mpeg2" recordings have to be "fixed" for playback
outside of WinTV playback software.

This freeware, amongst many other things, will "fix" the sync issues
and ensure compatibility with burning software, as well as media
players:
http://www.vidomi.com/

This is the official forum for hauppauge products, they'll guide you:
http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/board/index.php


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Old January 1st 09, 08:48 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
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"Fix it" wrote in message
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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
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My daughter has a WinTV PVR900 device.

She recently recorded 4 programs, each play fine in VLC but using Windows
Media Player or an Iomega media player device (No computer needed) I get
major sound video sync problems.

What would be the reason for this.

Geoff Lane


It's a hauppauge product, and that issue is covered in their forums,
But basically the "mpeg2" recordings have to be "fixed" for playback
outside of WinTV playback software.

This freeware, amongst many other things, will "fix" the sync issues
and ensure compatibility with burning software, as well as media
players:
http://www.vidomi.com/

This is the official forum for hauppauge products, they'll guide you:
http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/board/index.php


It's new years day and plenty of time on my hands, so I compiled
a quick pictorial guide on how to "fix" WinTV mpegs using the
freeware Vidomi.
I uploaded it to a throwaway google email account:

password: usenetng

Just logon to the account and follow the guide and all your WinTV
mpegs will now be fully compatible with all media players, editing
applications and DVD burning software.
Don't delete the email with the guide, it maybe of use to
others.




  #16  
Old January 2nd 09, 07:54 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
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Fix it wrote:

It's new years day and plenty of time on my hands, so I compiled
a quick pictorial guide on how to "fix" WinTV mpegs using the
freeware Vidomi.
I uploaded it to a throwaway google email account:

password: usenetng


Am following it NOW :-)

My laptop is a wee bit slow so is not getting the suggested 40 seconds
for 30 minute mpeg but I'll let you know when I try it out.

Thanks very much for the guide.

Don't delete the email with the guide, it maybe of use to
others.


I've left it there.

Geoff Lane
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Old January 2nd 09, 10:30 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
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Fix it wrote:

It's new years day and plenty of time on my hands, so I compiled
a quick pictorial guide on how to "fix" WinTV mpegs using the
freeware Vidomi.


I am now very puzzled

Followed your guide and the resulting mpeg still had sound problems as
well as image pixelation that was evident in the original (picture and
sound fine when played with VLC).

I had previously demuxed the original using ProjectX and remuxed to a
VOB file using ImagoMPEG-Muxer, with the latter I had options for the
output files of mpeg, VOB or VOB segmented but went for VOB as I wanted
to try something other than an mpeg.

The VOB version plays fine, image quality good and sound seems fine.

I understood a VOB to actually be a jpeg so would there be any reason
for a VOB to be more reliable.

Geoff Lane
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Old January 3rd 09, 04:07 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
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Fix it wrote:

It's new years day and plenty of time on my hands, so I compiled
a quick pictorial guide on how to "fix" WinTV mpegs using the
freeware Vidomi.


I am now very puzzled

Followed your guide and the resulting mpeg still had sound problems as
well as image pixelation that was evident in the original (picture and
sound fine when played with VLC).

I had previously demuxed the original using ProjectX and remuxed to a VOB
file using ImagoMPEG-Muxer, with the latter I had options for the output
files of mpeg, VOB or VOB segmented but went for VOB as I wanted to try
something other than an mpeg.

The VOB version plays fine, image quality good and sound seems fine.

I understood a VOB to actually be a jpeg so would there be any reason for
a VOB to be more reliable.

Geoff Lane


VOB is actually a special form of MPEG for DVD's and can contain several
soundtracks and subtitles and the like. It certainly is not jpeg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VOB


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Old January 3rd 09, 05:35 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Fix it
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Default Problem Playing MPEGs


"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
...
Fix it wrote:

It's new years day and plenty of time on my hands, so I compiled
a quick pictorial guide on how to "fix" WinTV mpegs using the
freeware Vidomi.


I am now very puzzled

Followed your guide and the resulting mpeg still had sound problems as
well as image pixelation that was evident in the original (picture and
sound fine when played with VLC).

I had previously demuxed the original using ProjectX and remuxed to a VOB
file using ImagoMPEG-Muxer, with the latter I had options for the output
files of mpeg, VOB or VOB segmented but went for VOB as I wanted to try
something other than an mpeg.

The VOB version plays fine, image quality good and sound seems fine.

I understood a VOB to actually be a jpeg so would there be any reason for
a VOB to be more reliable.

Geoff Lane


A Vob is a specific MPEG2, structured for DVD.
Not all MPEG2's are "equal" as you have found out.
I'm not sure what you've done, but it is best to use Vidomi with
the original WinTV file.
If a VOB plays back OK in, for example, WMP, then you have
the required decoder installed (These are usually pre-installed
when a laptop/PC is purchased - PowerDVD, and such like)
As the original file plays OK in VLC and assumed also WinTV, then
it wasn't a case of "capture drop".
Hauppauge's site have support and forums, all issues with WinTV
are covered there.

*capture drop is where, as an example, laptop is overwelmed by
the demands of DVB-T capture via a slow USB etc. audio is easily
captured, drop can occur with the video, but as the file plays OK
in VLC then that isn't the issue.
Try Vidomi with an unadulterated WinTV recording...
Go to the hauppauge forums.


  #20  
Old January 3rd 09, 10:43 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Geoff Lane
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Fix it wrote:

I'm not sure what you've done, but it is best to use Vidomi with
the original WinTV file.


Try Vidomi with an unadulterated WinTV recording...
Go to the hauppauge forums.


Re your suggestion to use an original WinTV, I created a couple of small
files to make conversion quicker.

I used a 1m 41s file at 28.4MB and a 17m 26s file at 343MB

I used vidomi to convert the files to a different folder and then, again
using a different target folder, converted the originals using ProjectX
to demux and imagoMPEG-muxer to remux to new MPEGs.

The Vidomi files again had sound sync problems but the demux/remux MPEGs
were fine. I am or course referring to playback on the Iomega screenplay
media player.

Strangely the vidomi files remained the same size whereas the
demux/remux files grew in size by 2MB and 25MB respectively.

Geoff Lane
 




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