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PVR Recording Axillary Input



 
 
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Old November 15th 08, 11:53 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Geoff Lane
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I have a Philips PVR (DVDR7260H), one of the inputs is a DV I-link
(which I understand is a Firewire connector) used to connect a camcorder
to the PVR.

Does the PVR scan the connected device for viewable files or would the
camcorder device have some form of server to make the files viewable.

Geoff Lane
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Old November 16th 08, 12:53 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
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On Nov 16, 12:53*am, Geoff Lane wrote:
I have a Philips PVR (DVDR7260H), one of the inputs is a DV I-link
(which I understand is a Firewire connector) used to connect a camcorder
to the PVR.

Does the PVR scan the connected device for viewable files or would the
camcorder device have some form of server to make the files viewable.


"When you connect a DV camcorder to the DV IN socket of this recorder,
you can control both the camcorder and this
recorder using the recorder’s remote control. Furthermore, the smart
chaptering feature ensures the chapter markers are created at each
break in the images"

Page 46 of the manual.
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Old November 16th 08, 03:54 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Geoff Lane
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Gorf wrote:

On Nov 16, 12:53 am, Geoff Lane wrote:


I have a Philips PVR (DVDR7260H), one of the inputs is a DV I-link
(which I understand is a Firewire connector) used to connect a camcorder
to the PVR.


"When you connect a DV camcorder to the DV IN socket of this recorder,
you can control both the camcorder and this
recorder using the recorder’s remote control. Furthermore, the smart
chaptering feature ensures the chapter markers are created at each
break in the images"

Page 46 of the manual.


It was more the theory I wanted to know, my daughter owns a similar
Philips model (DVDR3300H) and her manual states under a helpful hint
comment 'Use the DV socket to connect to a personal computer.

I am wondering what this would enable her to do, I did try connecting a
hard drive (With some movies on the file system) via firewire to her
Philips device but nothing was recognised.

Geoff Lane

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Old November 17th 08, 10:42 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
G Hardy
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Default PVR Recording Axillary Input

"Geoff Lane" wrote...

It was more the theory I wanted to know, my daughter owns a similar
Philips model (DVDR3300H) and her manual states under a helpful hint
comment 'Use the DV socket to connect to a personal computer.

I am wondering what this would enable her to do, I did try connecting a
hard drive (With some movies on the file system) via firewire to her
Philips device but nothing was recognised.


There are three potential reasons for connecting to a computer via firewire.
The first, and most obvious, is to transfer footage from camera to the
computer in order to edit, and edited footage back to camera for unknown*
reasons. The second is for mass storage devices like firewire hard drives to
be accessible in the same way you'd use any other external mass storage
device. The third is to connect two PCs in order to network them using the
appropriate driver. There may be other uses, but I'm unaware of them.

Your DVDR devices are very unlikely to connect in order to network with the
computer, and you've already dismissed the mass storage device theory. This
means that connecting the computer is for either or both of uploading
footage from the DVDR to the PC, or downloading your edits.

On either machine, you'll need to set one recording the stream before you
start the other playing the stream, because both the PC and the DVDR can
assume control of a DV camera, but they can't assume control of each other.

* In 2001 I bought two DV-in cameras. In that time I've used the feature
only twice- the first time "in the field" to transfer footage from one tape
to another to free up a full tape. The second time, it was also the easiest
way to get one of my finished edits to VHS, back when sacrificing a DVD
would have been too expensive.

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Old November 17th 08, 11:23 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Jerry
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"G Hardy" wrote in message
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* In 2001 I bought two DV-in cameras. In that time I've used the
feature only twice- the first time "in the field" to transfer
footage from one tape to another to free up a full tape. The second
time, it was also the easiest way to get one of my finished edits to
VHS, back when sacrificing a DVD would have been too expensive.


You forget the most obvious, to keep a copy of the edited video (edit
master), without imposing lousy compression, DV being (as you know Mr
Hardy) a direct bit for bit copy bar any failings that might have
occoured in any rendering of effects and titles etc.
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Old November 18th 08, 05:08 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Geoff Lane
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G Hardy wrote:

It was more the theory I wanted to know, my daughter owns a similar
Philips model (DVDR3300H) and her manual states under a helpful hint
comment 'Use the DV socket to connect to a personal computer.


Your DVDR devices are very unlikely to connect in order to network with
the computer, and you've already dismissed the mass storage device
theory. This means that connecting the computer is for either or both of
uploading footage from the DVDR to the PC, or downloading your edits.


Thanks for an informative reply, I haven't got a PC with firewire so
haven't been able to try it out.

Strangely, my machine is a later similar machine to my daughter's, her
manual states a computer can be connected, an email reply from Philips
suggests that on mine the computer cannot be connected.

Geoff Lane
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Old November 18th 08, 07:17 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Jerry
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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
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Strangely, my machine is a later similar machine to my daughter's,
her manual states a computer can be connected, an email reply from
Philips suggests that on mine the computer cannot be connected.


Quite possible, now days such things are controlled from firmware
rather than hardware.
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