Hello!
Why does a panoramic video (in an evening or inside a building, shot
by Sony HC5E camcorder) look like the frame rate is about 10 fps? My
11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder never had this problem.
Best regards,
Dima

"D" wrote in message
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Hello!
Why does a panoramic video (in an evening or inside a building, shot
by Sony HC5E camcorder) look like the frame rate is about 10 fps? My
11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder never had this problem.
Best regards,
Dima

Because there is not enough light falling on the CCD?... As the old
saying goes, crap in = crap out!

D wrote:
Hello!
Why does a panoramic video (in an evening or inside a building, shot
by Sony HC5E camcorder) look like the frame rate is about 10 fps? My
11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder never had this problem.
Best regards,
Dima

Maybe your son's JVC has a more sensitive CCD device than your Sony, so
can run at a higher frame rate in low light.

John.

On May 21, 2:54*pm, John wrote:
D wrote:
Hello!
Why does a panoramic video (in an evening or inside a building, shot
by Sony HC5E camcorder) look like the frame rate is about 10 fps? My
11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder never had this problem.
Best regards,
Dima

Maybe your son's JVC has a more sensitive CCD device than your Sony, so
can run at a higher frame rate in low light.

John.

Thanks for replying!
The JVC VHS-C is 11 year old. It is mine, not son's.

On May 21, 2:46*pm, ":Jerry:" wrote:
"D" wrote in message

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Hello!
Why does a panoramic video (in an evening or inside a building, shot
by Sony HC5E camcorder) look like the frame rate is about 10 fps? My
11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder never had this problem.
Best regards,
Dima

Because there is not enough light falling on the CCD?... As the old
saying goes, crap in = crap out!
Thanks Jerry for replying!
Why is there enough light for the 11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder, not
for the 100 times more expensive Sony HC5E camcorder in the same
conditions?

"D" wrote in message
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On May 21, 2:46 pm, ":Jerry:" wrote:
"D" wrote in message

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Hello!
Why does a panoramic video (in an evening or inside a building,
shot
by Sony HC5E camcorder) look like the frame rate is about 10 fps?
My
11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder never had this problem.
Best regards,
Dima

Because there is not enough light falling on the CCD?... As the old
saying goes, crap in = crap out!
Thanks Jerry for replying!
Why is there enough light for the 11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder, not
for the 100 times more expensive Sony HC5E camcorder in the same
conditions?

Because of the way the camera is designed, DV camera have always
needed more light, OTOH electronic tweaking (automatic gain etc.) of
the available image has improved, so although the camera will produce
an image in less than 1 Lux the image will be poor.

On May 21, 3:23*pm, ":Jerry:" wrote:
"D" wrote in message

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On May 21, 2:46 pm, ":Jerry:" wrote: "D" wrote in message

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Hello!
Why does a panoramic video (in an evening or inside a building,
shot
by Sony HC5E camcorder) look like the frame rate is about 10 fps?
My
11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder never had this problem.
Best regards,
Dima

Because there is not enough light falling on the CCD?... As the old
saying goes, crap in = crap out!

Thanks Jerry for replying!
Why is there enough light for the 11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder, not
for the 100 times more expensive Sony HC5E camcorder in the same
conditions?

Because of the way the camera is designed, DV camera have always
needed more light, OTOH electronic tweaking (automatic gain etc.) of
the available image has improved, so although the camera will produce
an image in less than 1 Lux the image will be poor.
Thanks Jerry for your explanation!
Do all DV camcorders drop a frame rate to 10fps in an average
appartment illumination?

"D" wrote in message
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On May 21, 3:23 pm, ":Jerry:" wrote:
"D" wrote in message

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On May 21, 2:46 pm, ":Jerry:" wrote: "D"
wrote in message

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Hello!
Why does a panoramic video (in an evening or inside a building,
shot
by Sony HC5E camcorder) look like the frame rate is about 10
fps?
My
11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder never had this problem.
Best regards,
Dima

Because there is not enough light falling on the CCD?... As the
old
saying goes, crap in = crap out!

Thanks Jerry for replying!
Why is there enough light for the 11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder,
not
for the 100 times more expensive Sony HC5E camcorder in the same
conditions?

Because of the way the camera is designed, DV camera have always
needed more light, OTOH electronic tweaking (automatic gain etc.) of
the available image has improved, so although the camera will
produce
an image in less than 1 Lux the image will be poor.
Thanks Jerry for your explanation!
Do all DV camcorders drop a frame rate to 10fps in an average
appartment illumination?

How a certain camera does given a certain level of light, depends on
the spec - and I don't mean the spec that the marketing men use as
sales fodder either - I don't have the spec of the Sony HC5E so can't
even start working it out, nor have I the time to go hunting it down
ATM. :~(

BTW, what is the 'average' apartment illumination, some people live in
darkness and others live in a light level only normally found in a
medical operation room, this is why camera specs use Lux levels -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lux, note the first (main) table.

On May 21, 3:54*pm, ":Jerry:" wrote:
"D" wrote in message

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On May 21, 3:23 pm, ":Jerry:" wrote:



"D" wrote in message

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On May 21, 2:46 pm, ":Jerry:" wrote: "D"
wrote in message

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Hello!
Why does a panoramic video (in an evening or inside a building,
shot
by Sony HC5E camcorder) look like the frame rate is about 10
fps?
My
11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder never had this problem.
Best regards,
Dima

Because there is not enough light falling on the CCD?... As the
old
saying goes, crap in = crap out!

Thanks Jerry for replying!
Why is there enough light for the 11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder,
not
for the 100 times more expensive Sony HC5E camcorder in the same
conditions?

Because of the way the camera is designed, DV camera have always
needed more light, OTOH electronic tweaking (automatic gain etc.) of
the available image has improved, so although the camera will
produce
an image in less than 1 Lux the image will be poor.

Thanks Jerry for your explanation!
Do all DV camcorders drop a frame rate to 10fps in an average
appartment illumination?

How a certain camera does given a certain level of light, depends on
the spec - and I don't mean the spec that the marketing men use as
sales fodder either - I don't have the spec of the Sony HC5E so can't
even start working it out, nor have I the time to go hunting it down
ATM. :~(

BTW, what is the 'average' apartment illumination, some people live in
darkness and others live in a light level only normally found in a
medical operation room, this is why camera specs use Lux levels -http://en..wikipedia.org/wiki/Lux, note the first (main) table.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks Jerry for answering!
The spec of the Sony HC5E
Image Device: Size :1/3.0 ClearVid CMOS Sensor
14bit DXP :YES
Advanced HAD technology :NO
Number of Pixels Gross (K) :2100
Number of Pixels Act Camera mode (K) :16:9 Mode ; 1430 / 4:3 Mode ;
1080
Number of Pixels Act Memory mode (K) :16:9 Mode ; 1490 / 4:3 Mode ;
1990
Focus: Full Range Auto :YES
Focus: Manual :YES
Manual Focus Key :Panel
Spot Focus (Touch Panel) :YES
Spot Meter :YES
Minimum Illumination (lux) :2.0
Minimum Illumination with NightShot (lux) :0.0
SteadyShot (Image Stabilisation) :Super (electronic)
Night Shot :Super NightShot
Camera Noise Reduction :NO
Shutter Speed :1/2-1/425
White Balance :Auto / Outdoor / Indoor / Onepush
Scene Selection :Twilight / Twilight Portrait (Still only) / Candle /
Sunrise & Sunset / Fireworks / Landscape / Portrait / Spotlight /
Beach / Snow
Auto Slow Shutter :YES
Colour Slow Shutter :YES
Backlight Compensation :YES
Smooth Slow Rec :YES
Interval Rec. :NO
Fader :Black / White / Mosaic / Monotone
Telemacro :YES
http://www.sony.co.uk/view/ShowProdu...=HDD+HDV#t ab

The 'average' apartment illumination is 200W of incandescent light for
a 20 sq.m. room.

"D" wrote in message
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Hello!
Why does a panoramic video (in an evening or inside a building, shot
by Sony HC5E camcorder) look like the frame rate is about 10 fps? My
11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder never had this problem.

Hi Dima,

If you are looking at it on a PC, are you sure that the problem isn't
that the PC is on the slow side? HDV is quite demanding.
If you don't see this effect in normal daylight, or are not using a PC,
forget what I said.

Cheers,
--
Rob