"Trev" trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM wrote in message
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Dave Farrance wrote:
"Trev" trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM wrote:

Dave Farrance wrote:
Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
least eight hours? It's for a video capture application where
quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a
supermarket would be fine.

DVD and analogue dont compute.
super long play ie Mpeg 1 Is available on all the ones I have seen

Analogue as in only an analogue tuner, I meant. How long is super
long play?

HQ is 60 mins
SP is 120
Lp is 180
EP is 240
slp is 360 and sep is 480

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Trev
You can always tell a Yorkshire man,
But you can't tell him much.

Been there with the 8 hour DVD. Not so good when after 7hrs 50 mins a
lightning flash caused a drop in the mains and the disk was corrupted.

When I was doing it there was not any HD recorders for sensible money.

I would advise HD recorder and cut recording time into 'losable ' time
chunks'

i.e. 8 x 1 hour recordings rather than 1x 8 hour as I mentioned before
when its gone it's gone.

Its not like tape where it would just stop and be ok up to that.

Gary

"Dave Farrance" wrote in message
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Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
least eight hours? It's for a video capture application where quality
isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a supermarket
would be fine.

--
Dave Farrance

As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
who haven't got a clue.

You're doing it on a budget
It seems that portability is not an issue in seeking a DVD recorder.

You want long play but via the analoque capture outputs from
a camcorder direct to DVD disk - that is expecting a lot on a
budget to be able to convert "on-the-fly" an analoque input
signal direct to DVD.
You would be best capturing to a HDD, but again it would be
converting "on-the-fly" the analoque feed from the cam to MPEG.

Assuming you will be capturing a type of surveilance footage,
and portability is not an issue, such as wildlife overnight in your
garden etc. Where a cam is static recording a scene, then I
suggest you opt for a budget DV camcorder and if your PC has
a firewire port, then you can capture via what is known as
"pass through".
This is where you connect the DV cam to the firewire port and
simple software such as Windows Movie maker, or Nero or Roxio
(all are capable) will capture the footage direct to HDD, the only
limitations being the capacity of the HDD.
Once captured, you can then edit and convert to any format or
burn to DVD.

DV camcorders do the "on-the-fly" capture conversion, you just
ensure the budget DV cam you opt for has "DV In/Out"
Only those with "In/Out" are capable of "Pass through" that
being, rather than record the footage to tape loaded in the
camcorder it passes it through the firewire connection and
is recorded to your computers HDD.
If you google the key terms: DV, firewire, passthrough
you will find plenty of tutorials, or visit:
http://www.simplydv.co.uk/index.php
http://www.videohelp.com

With some searching you could pick up a budget DV camcorder
with bare facilities but with "In/Out" capabilities, for approx £100 new
or much less pre-owned:
http://audiovisual.kelkoo.co.uk/cp_1...e_mini_dv.html
(Or type in google search: mini DV camcorders)

For what I think you want to do, - continuous 8 hr capture, if direct
to DVD the compression required and the "on-the-fly" conversion
would be disasterous for quality and probably not possible.
A direct capture in high quality DV-AVI to your PC's HDD via
pass through and then edit/convert/burn is a much better option.

Capture wrote:
"Dave Farrance" wrote in
message news
Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
least eight hours? It's for a video capture application where
quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a
supermarket would be fine.

--
Dave Farrance

As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
who haven't got a clue.

You're doing it on a budget
It seems that portability is not an issue in seeking a DVD recorder.

You want long play but via the analoque capture outputs from
a camcorder direct to DVD disk - that is expecting a lot on a
budget to be able to convert "on-the-fly" an analoque input
signal direct to DVD.
You would be best capturing to a HDD, but again it would be
converting "on-the-fly" the analoque feed from the cam to MPEG.

Assuming you will be capturing a type of surveilance footage,
and portability is not an issue, such as wildlife overnight in your
garden etc. Where a cam is static recording a scene, then I
suggest you opt for a budget DV camcorder and if your PC has
a firewire port, then you can capture via what is known as
"pass through".
This is where you connect the DV cam to the firewire port and
simple software such as Windows Movie maker, or Nero or Roxio
(all are capable) will capture the footage direct to HDD, the only
limitations being the capacity of the HDD.
Once captured, you can then edit and convert to any format or
burn to DVD.

DV camcorders do the "on-the-fly" capture conversion, you just
ensure the budget DV cam you opt for has "DV In/Out"
Only those with "In/Out" are capable of "Pass through" that
being, rather than record the footage to tape loaded in the
camcorder it passes it through the firewire connection and
is recorded to your computers HDD.
If you google the key terms: DV, firewire, passthrough
you will find plenty of tutorials, or visit:
http://www.simplydv.co.uk/index.php
http://www.videohelp.com

With some searching you could pick up a budget DV camcorder
with bare facilities but with "In/Out" capabilities, for approx £100
new or much less pre-owned:
http://audiovisual.kelkoo.co.uk/cp_1...e_mini_dv.html
(Or type in google search: mini DV camcorders)

For what I think you want to do, - continuous 8 hr capture, if direct
to DVD the compression required and the "on-the-fly" conversion
would be disasterous for quality and probably not possible.
A direct capture in high quality DV-AVI to your PC's HDD via
pass through and then edit/convert/burn is a much better option.

YTC

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Nige, talking utter ****e since 1967.

Focus ST3
Discovery 3 XS
BMW K1200S

NIGE#1

Capture wrote:

As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
who haven't got a clue.
snip
You want long play but via the analoque capture outputs from
a camcorder direct to DVD disk - that is expecting a lot on a
budget to be able to convert "on-the-fly" an analoque input
signal direct to DVD.
You would be best capturing to a HDD, but again it would be
converting "on-the-fly" the analoque feed from the cam to MPEG.

You've got the bloody cheek to call other posters thickos, when you can't
spell analogue and you don't know how to use an apostrophe. What does that
make you?

Adrian wrote:
Capture wrote:

As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
who haven't got a clue.
snip
You want long play but via the analoque capture outputs from
a camcorder direct to DVD disk - that is expecting a lot on a
budget to be able to convert "on-the-fly" an analoque input
signal direct to DVD.
You would be best capturing to a HDD, but again it would be
converting "on-the-fly" the analoque feed from the cam to MPEG.

You've got the bloody cheek to call other posters thickos, when you
can't spell analogue and you don't know how to use an apostrophe.
What does that make you?

A thick ****.

HTH


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Nige, talking utter ****e since 1967.

Focus ST3
Discovery 3 XS
BMW K1200S

NIGE#1

Capture wrote:
"Dave Farrance" wrote in
message news
Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
least eight hours? It's for a video capture application where
quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a
supermarket would be fine.

--
Dave Farrance

As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
who haven't got a clue.

Speak for your self. Camcorders record DV but the output from the composite
socket is Analogue. Like wise scart on recorders is analogue.

"Trev" trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM wrote in message
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Capture wrote:
"Dave Farrance" wrote in
message news
Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at
least eight hours? It's for a video capture application where
quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a
supermarket would be fine.

--
Dave Farrance

As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
who haven't got a clue.

Speak for your self. Camcorders record DV but the output from the
composite socket is Analogue. Like wise scart on recorders is analogue.



Like I said a bunch of thicko's who ain't got a clue.
The conversion is by the DV camcorder into DV-AVI format
and "pass through" is via firewire in the digital domain.
I'll spell it out for you thicko,
The connections won't be analog via composite or scart
The connection will be firewire - digital
The DV cam will capture footage as DV-AVI, thats digital.
The DV cam won't record to DV tape,
It will "pass through" direct to the PC's capture software as DV-AVI
Digital from start to finish.

"Adrian" wrote in message
om...
Capture wrote:

As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
who haven't got a clue.
snip
You want long play but via the analoque capture outputs from
a camcorder direct to DVD disk - that is expecting a lot on a
budget to be able to convert "on-the-fly" an analoque input
signal direct to DVD.
You would be best capturing to a HDD, but again it would be
converting "on-the-fly" the analoque feed from the cam to MPEG.

You've got the bloody cheek to call other posters thickos, when you can't
spell analogue and you don't know how to use an apostrophe. What does that
make you?


Is that best you can counter with - a grammer lame!! ROFLMFAO!!

Capture wrote:
"Trev" trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM wrote in message
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Capture wrote:
"Dave Farrance" wrote in
message news Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording
at least eight hours? It's for a video capture application where
quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from
a supermarket would be fine.

--
Dave Farrance

As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
who haven't got a clue.

Speak for your self. Camcorders record DV but the output from the
composite socket is Analogue. Like wise scart on recorders is
analogue.

Like I said a bunch of thicko's who ain't got a clue.
The conversion is by the DV camcorder into DV-AVI format
and "pass through" is via firewire in the digital domain.
I'll spell it out for you thicko,
The connections won't be analog via composite or scart
The connection will be firewire - digital
The DV cam will capture footage as DV-AVI, thats digital.
The DV cam won't record to DV tape,
It will "pass through" direct to the PC's capture software as DV-AVI
Digital from start to finish.

Not via the composite output socket or does your cam not have that. Then
again not many recorders have Firewire

--
Trev
You can always tell a Yorkshire man,
But you can't tell him much.

"Trev" trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM wrote in message
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Capture wrote:
"Trev" trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM wrote in message
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Capture wrote:
"Dave Farrance" wrote in
message news Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording
at least eight hours? It's for a video capture application where
quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from
a supermarket would be fine.

--
Dave Farrance

As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's
who haven't got a clue.

Speak for your self. Camcorders record DV but the output from the
composite socket is Analogue. Like wise scart on recorders is
analogue.

Like I said a bunch of thicko's who ain't got a clue.
The conversion is by the DV camcorder into DV-AVI format
and "pass through" is via firewire in the digital domain.
I'll spell it out for you thicko,
The connections won't be analog via composite or scart
The connection will be firewire - digital
The DV cam will capture footage as DV-AVI, thats digital.
The DV cam won't record to DV tape,
It will "pass through" direct to the PC's capture software as DV-AVI
Digital from start to finish.

Not via the composite output socket or does your cam not have that. Then
again not many recorders have Firewire

--
Trev
You can always tell a Yorkshire man,
But you can't tell him much.


Read the thread moron, there is NO reference to composite,
the guide is to capture direct via firewire which all DV cams have
direct to a PC via firewire. The guide is about DV pass through
from capture to a PC in the digital domain. Not to a cheap DVD
recorder. As I said thicko's without a clue...