I have a project in Nero that I've been trying to burn onto a Dual
Layer DVD+R disc. So far unfortunately without success (4 new beer
mats!).

I have encoded the project and I am just burning the Video_TS and
Audio_TS using the burning Rom.

So far though upon playback I always seem to have one or two titles
that have errors. It might say unexpected DVD error, unable to read
part of dvd playback might be effected etc and then it stops the video
playing. Have tested on my computers DVD drive as well as regular DVD
player so have ruled out hardware being the problem.

The best I have been able to do so far is to get the errors down so
that it is just two titles out of the 24 that have errors which are
slide shows with music towards the end of the DVD. No matter how many
times I try to sort it out though e.g. try a different music file or
export and then reimport the video to see if that helps, then next
time I have re-encoded the whole project and burning to DVD again, it
seems it is something else that then has the problem a different title
that was okay previously. So I am sceptical that it was a problem with
any of the video or audio files in the project esp after Nero has
encoded it all.

It seems really strange this, so I am thinking that either it is just
bad DL media that I am using or maybe Nero has an error when it is
encoding or burning the DVD? Surely though if it is bad DL media I
wouldn't have 4 coasters in a row? The chances of that are quite slim,
you would have at least got one good burn out of four usually even
with a bad bunch of media you have half okay half bad.

I am thinking that perhaps I will just try burning on a single layer
disc to see if that makes a difference. Unfortunately if I do that I
will either have to reduce the quality of the video files quite a lot
so they fit on the one disc, or somehow split the project in two and
have it over 2 discs. Was wondering if many people burning their own
DVDs have experienced similar problems using Dual Layer media and
found single layer more reliable?

It's been a real pain this because it takes just over 7 hours for Nero
Vision Express to encode all the files, then it takes just over 40
minutes to burn onto a blank DL DVD+R disc.

My project contains quite a lot of slides shows with background music
and 4 DV video files from MiniDV camcorder. Two of the video files are
just three minutes long, one is about 30 minutes long and the other is
1 hour and 20 minutes in length.

Do you think it will make a difference if I export all the individual
titles and bring back in again so that all the effects, texts, music,
edits etc are all within the one video file and then not creating any
chapters for the different titles? I am thinking perhaps having less
individual elements making this whole project up will mean less parts
of it can go wrong?

John

"John" wrote in message
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snip

It seems really strange this, so I am thinking that either it is
just
bad DL media that I am using or maybe Nero has an error when it is
encoding or burning the DVD? Surely though if it is bad DL media I
wouldn't have 4 coasters in a row? The chances of that are quite
slim,
you would have at least got one good burn out of four usually even
with a bad bunch of media you have half okay half bad.


Hmm, it's unlikely that you have a whole batch of bad disks but what
it could be is that the media is incompatible with the burner,
although rare these days it can still occur, I would certainly try
different media.

FU's set.

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:59:30 -0000, ":Jerry:"
wrote:

"John" wrote in message
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snip

It seems really strange this, so I am thinking that either it is
just
bad DL media that I am using or maybe Nero has an error when it is
encoding or burning the DVD? Surely though if it is bad DL media I
wouldn't have 4 coasters in a row? The chances of that are quite
slim,
you would have at least got one good burn out of four usually even
with a bad bunch of media you have half okay half bad.


Hmm, it's unlikely that you have a whole batch of bad disks but what
it could be is that the media is incompatible with the burner,
although rare these days it can still occur, I would certainly try
different media.

I'm just in the process of re-encoding in Nero Vision so it will fit
onto a single layer disc, had to reduce the quality. I might try just
burning to an -RW disc first of all to save toasting more R discs.

My DVD drive does support DL discs and all formats so it does seem
strange.

Cheers

John

"John" wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:59:30 -0000, ":Jerry:"
wrote:

"John" wrote in message
. ..

snip

It seems really strange this, so I am thinking that either it is
just
bad DL media that I am using or maybe Nero has an error when it is
encoding or burning the DVD? Surely though if it is bad DL media I
wouldn't have 4 coasters in a row? The chances of that are quite
slim,
you would have at least got one good burn out of four usually even
with a bad bunch of media you have half okay half bad.


Hmm, it's unlikely that you have a whole batch of bad disks but what
it could be is that the media is incompatible with the burner,
although rare these days it can still occur, I would certainly try
different media.

I'm just in the process of re-encoding in Nero Vision so it will fit
onto a single layer disc, had to reduce the quality. I might try
just
burning to an -RW disc first of all to save toasting more R discs.

My DVD drive does support DL discs and all formats so it does seem
strange.


Whooosssshhhh...

John wrote:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:59:30 -0000, ":Jerry:"
wrote:

"John" wrote in message
...

snip

It seems really strange this, so I am thinking that either it is
just
bad DL media that I am using or maybe Nero has an error when it is
encoding or burning the DVD? Surely though if it is bad DL media I
wouldn't have 4 coasters in a row? The chances of that are quite
slim,
you would have at least got one good burn out of four usually even
with a bad bunch of media you have half okay half bad.


Hmm, it's unlikely that you have a whole batch of bad disks but what
it could be is that the media is incompatible with the burner,
although rare these days it can still occur, I would certainly try
different media.

I'm just in the process of re-encoding in Nero Vision so it will fit
onto a single layer disc, had to reduce the quality. I might try just
burning to an -RW disc first of all to save toasting more R discs.

My DVD drive does support DL discs and all formats so it does seem
strange.

Cheers

John

Do you have to split them yourself or does Nero split them to record both
sides. A bit like when coping a DVD to a DVD+ R it stops and asks for a
second disc to be inserted., I hav not botherd with DL as its quicker and
cheaper to use two discs

--
Trev
You can always tell a Yorkshire man,
But you can't tell him much.

It's been a real pain this because it takes just over 7 hours for Nero
Vision Express to encode all the files, then it takes just over 40
minutes to burn onto a blank DL DVD+R disc.

Can't NVE burn to a VIDEO_TS folder on the hard drive? Then all you need to
do is watch it in Showtime to make sure the files are OK and burn with Nero
Express. If you make a coaster (for whatever reason) you don't have to go
through the encoding process again.


My project contains quite a lot of slides shows with background music
and 4 DV video files from MiniDV camcorder. Two of the video files are
just three minutes long, one is about 30 minutes long and the other is
1 hour and 20 minutes in length.

You might find that the video is being encoded at the maximum bitrate, which
is a problem for a lot of DVD players with DVDR media. For DV sourced
material, you won't see a benefit with the video bitrate higher than
6500kbps. If you have the time to wait for two-pass VBR, you can set the
average from 4500 to 6500kbps and it will still be impossible to see any
difference from the source material.

In the video editor part, click the "More" button and then click "Video
options". In the DVD-Video tab, change the quality setting from "Automatic"
to "Standard Play" and the Encoding mode to "High quality". If you can, you
should also change the audio to Dolby 2.0 rather than Stereo.


Do you think it will make a difference if I export all the individual
titles and bring back in again so that all the effects, texts, music,
edits etc are all within the one video file and then not creating any
chapters for the different titles?

I don't think it will make a great deal of difference - if possible, you
should always avoid rendering to an intermediate filetype before creating
your DVD.


...I am thinking perhaps having less
individual elements making this whole project up will mean less parts
of it can go wrong?

If that's an option, you might find better compatibility with single-layer
DVDR than dual. The price-per-gigabyte of dual has never come down as low as
single, so all my chargeable work has been sent out on SL discs. I've never
had a return - ever. (Well, not because of compatibility problems anyway.)
If the average bitrate needs to drop below 3000kbps in order to fit onto SL
disc, I just span the content across two discs.

John wrote:
I have a project in Nero that I've been trying to burn onto a Dual
Layer DVD+R disc. So far unfortunately without success (4 new beer
mats!).

I have encoded the project and I am just burning the Video_TS and
Audio_TS using the burning Rom.

Bad Nero.... Bad Bad Naughty Nero... ;-)

John, I use lots of different tools. One of them is ImgBurn. You can
get it at http://www.videohelp.com. Use "Build" mode, point it to the
VIDEO_TS folder and select "Device" to burn a disc. Works like a
champ! Here's a Tutorial...
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/arch...er_imgburn.cfm.
So far though upon playback I always seem to have one or two titles
that have errors. It might say unexpected DVD error, unable to read
part of dvd playback might be effected etc and then it stops the video
playing. Have tested on my computers DVD drive as well as regular DVD
player so have ruled out hardware being the problem.

The best I have been able to do so far is to get the errors down so
that it is just two titles out of the 24 that have errors which are
slide shows with music towards the end of the DVD. No matter how many
times I try to sort it out though e.g. try a different music file or
export and then reimport the video to see if that helps, then next
time I have re-encoded the whole project and burning to DVD again, it
seems it is something else that then has the problem a different title
that was okay previously. So I am sceptical that it was a problem with
any of the video or audio files in the project esp after Nero has
encoded it all.

It seems really strange this, so I am thinking that either it is just
bad DL media that I am using or maybe Nero has an error when it is
encoding or burning the DVD? Surely though if it is bad DL media I
wouldn't have 4 coasters in a row? The chances of that are quite slim,
you would have at least got one good burn out of four usually even
with a bad bunch of media you have half okay half bad.

I am thinking that perhaps I will just try burning on a single layer
disc to see if that makes a difference. Unfortunately if I do that I
will either have to reduce the quality of the video files quite a lot
so they fit on the one disc, or somehow split the project in two and
have it over 2 discs. Was wondering if many people burning their own
DVDs have experienced similar problems using Dual Layer media and
found single layer more reliable?

It's been a real pain this because it takes just over 7 hours for Nero
Vision Express to encode all the files, then it takes just over 40
minutes to burn onto a blank DL DVD+R disc.

John, you really need to find out what type of video file Nero will use
without Transcoding! For instance, I use a Hauppauge WinPVR-250 (with
hardware encoder) to record programs into MPEG-2 DVD Program files using
VBR / max 6200 Mbps video, MP2 / 48 KHz / 128 Kbps / 16 bit / stereo
audio. I use MovieFactory to author the discs, with the video & audio
parameters set the same. It will assemble and burn a 2 hour movie in
about 1/2 hour -- with _no Transcoding_. Without doing like that, it
used to take about 5 hours on a 1.2 GHz Athlon machine!
My project contains quite a lot of slides shows with background music
and 4 DV video files from MiniDV camcorder. Two of the video files are
just three minutes long, one is about 30 minutes long and the other is
1 hour and 20 minutes in length.

Do you think it will make a difference if I export all the individual
titles and bring back in again so that all the effects, texts, music,
edits etc are all within the one video file and then not creating any
chapters for the different titles? I am thinking perhaps having less
individual elements making this whole project up will mean less parts
of it can go wrong?

John

G Hardy wrote:
...I am thinking perhaps having less
individual elements making this whole project up will mean less parts
of it can go wrong?

If that's an option, you might find better compatibility with
single-layer DVDR than dual. The price-per-gigabyte of dual has never
come down as low as single, so all my chargeable work has been sent
out on SL discs. I've never had a return - ever. (Well, not because of
compatibility problems anyway.) If the average bitrate needs to drop
below 3000kbps in order to fit onto SL disc, I just span the content
across two discs.
I agree... And I just thought of something else... I use DVD Shrink to
avoid the high cost of dual-layer disks. Just point it to your VIDEO_TS
folder, it'll shrink it, make an ".ISO" file, and use Nero to burn a
single-layer 4.7 GB disc. You can get it at
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...dvd_shrink.cfm.

BTW.... If it won't use Nero to burn, just get ImgBurn from
http://www.videohelp.com. (You could get DVD Shrink there too)

Cheerio,

Keith

I agree... And I just thought of something else... I use DVD Shrink to
avoid the high cost of dual-layer disks....

The OP can use Nero Recode - he can recode direct from the DVD disc to a
directory on the hard drive - in fact if he does that, and the problems
"disappear", the issue is either the bitrate or the compatibility of the DVD
media he's using.

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:59:30 -0000, ":Jerry:" wrote:

"John" wrote in message
.. .

snip

It seems really strange this, so I am thinking that either it is
just
bad DL media that I am using or maybe Nero has an error when it is
encoding or burning the DVD? Surely though if it is bad DL media I
wouldn't have 4 coasters in a row? The chances of that are quite
slim,
you would have at least got one good burn out of four usually even
with a bad bunch of media you have half okay half bad.


Hmm, it's unlikely that you have a whole batch of bad disks but what
it could be is that the media is incompatible with the burner,
although rare these days it can still occur, I would certainly try
different media.

FU's set.


I should certainly use a DVD/RW for the first burn - then you don't make any
coasters. I have in any case given up on Nero. It never started smart and
certainly is not smart now - Look at what deskshare has got - it works for me as
does also Roxio.

Borge in sunny Perth, Australia