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In on Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:35:16
GMT, Erik Harris wrote:

On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:56:52 GMT, John Navas
wrote:

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In on Fri, 20 Jun 2003 19:53:53
GMT, Erik Harris wrote:

On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:33:51 GMT, "FLY135" wrote:

If you rely on the accuracy of that information when buying a player, it is
highly likely you will get burned.

What do you recommend in its place? [SNIP ad hominem remarks]

Going out and actually testing before you buy.

Is there some reason that both steps can't be done? Why is this step
necessarily in place of looking at the database on dvdrhelp.com? You
conveniently "SNIP"ped the part where I specifically said that people should
use multiple resources. It seems logical that testing the product before
buying would be the step you take _after_ you filter your choices down to a
few with resources like reviews and the dvdrhelp.com database (which I
suspect is far more accurate than Mr. Anonymous Hotmail Troll would have us
believe, even though there's no way it's 100% reliable).

I see no point in using the database on dvdrhelp.com, which might filter out
perfectly good choices, when I can easily get complete and accurate
information simply by testing.

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On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:23:13 GMT, John Navas
wrote:

Is there some reason that both steps can't be done? Why is this step
necessarily in place of looking at the database on dvdrhelp.com? You
conveniently "SNIP"ped the part where I specifically said that people should
use multiple resources. It seems logical that testing the product before
buying would be the step you take _after_ you filter your choices down to a
few with resources like reviews and the dvdrhelp.com database (which I
suspect is far more accurate than Mr. Anonymous Hotmail Troll would have us
believe, even though there's no way it's 100% reliable).

I see no point in using the database on dvdrhelp.com, which might filter out
perfectly good choices, when I can easily get complete and accurate
information simply by testing.


In theory that is a great idea, but my attempts didn't turn out so
well in the real world.

I have 2 DVD players now. Both play DVD, VCD and SVCD although they
don't claim to support all those. Both also have some glitches --
certain things pretty bad on both -- and I wanted to get a new
player for my main TV that can play everthing I may want to try.

On the web I checked what Best Buy and Circuit City are offering
now. I looked through the dvdrhelp lists and several possible
choices weren't covered yet. I settled on a couple possibilities.
(BTW, if you read the reviews for a given model, there is usually
quite a bit of conflict about what works or doesn't on the same
model.)

I burned sample VCD and SVCD from the sample images you can download
from dvdrhelp. I burned a short DVD onto -R and -RW and took along a
comercial DVD that gives problems on one of my current players.

I went to Best Buy and Circuit City locally and neither were set up
so you could try the DVD players. They gave me a guarantee that I
could bring it back if I wasn't satisfied, but that's a painful way
to test.

Fortunately I found a different Best Buy store where a friendly
salesman let me move and try a couple players. First I tried a JVC
XV-N5SL which sounded good from the reviews. It was good in most
cases, but had a glitch on playing one SVCD file - I saw the same
thing on one of my home players. I asked if the salesman had any
suggestions and we tried a Sony. This played the SVCD, but had other
issues. Its method for navigating menus was particularly awkward.

I gave up at this point and bought nothing. Anyone here have
suggestions?

So nothing that I have tried yet seems to be the one. No player that
I have tried has handled subtitles on the SVCD samples correctly
(although that's not a big issue).
I'm in the US so only tried NTSC samples.

Its not easy to find that super DVD player.

-xray

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In on Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:28:20
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I gave up at this point and bought nothing. Anyone here have
suggestions?

JVC XV-S500

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