In article ,
Mike O'Sullivan wrote:

Alan Holmes wrote:

[snip]

Those were the days.


I remember a bloke who came round with a handcart selling shellfish. My
Mum used to send me our with a jar to get a pint of cockles!. Whatever
happened to them!

I imagine she ate them.

":Jerry:" wrote in message
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Have you noticed that the CRT has disappeared from the 'sheds'
whilst they have all but disappeared from the High Street, at the
same time the Flat Panel TV set has seen the cost of buying a TV
(with a worse picture quality) double or treble - and we're not even
talking about the cost of HD yet, nor the fact that the only
broadcaster who is (really) transmitting HD programmes is BSkyB and
that it's going to be some years before HD becomes mainstream,
indeed I suspect that some 'HD Ready' sets will *never* receive a
true HD signal!

yes I've been thinking that myself. It seems to be taking forever for
a HD signal to appear and I'd swear that slimeball Murdoch is behind
it all. I disagree with flat panels having a worse picture quality
though. Our new flat panel TV has an image vastly superior to the
previous CRT telly.
But all is not lost. I've bought a HD camcorder which should arrive
next week, and I'm gonna plug it into the TV and then I'll see a HD
image. How ironic that the only way for me to see a HD image on my own
TV is to create one myself. And the BluRay/HD DVD players are insanely
expensive too - prices outta my league at the moment.

"tg" wrote in message
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":Jerry:" wrote in message
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Have you noticed that the CRT has disappeared from the 'sheds'
whilst they have all but disappeared from the High Street, at the
same time the Flat Panel TV set has seen the cost of buying a TV
(with a worse picture quality) double or treble - and we're not
even
talking about the cost of HD yet, nor the fact that the only
broadcaster who is (really) transmitting HD programmes is BSkyB and
that it's going to be some years before HD becomes mainstream,
indeed I suspect that some 'HD Ready' sets will *never* receive a
true HD signal!

yes I've been thinking that myself. It seems to be taking forever
for
a HD signal to appear and I'd swear that slimeball Murdoch is behind

Not really, he just has more freedom to do what needs to be done, the
problem, is with HMG / Ofcom - we might *never* see HD terrestrial if
HMG is intent on selling off 'spare and redundant' terrestrial
spectrum once analogue switch off is complete. Of course, Murdoch
could be pulling the strings within HMG I suppose...

it all. I disagree with flat panels having a worse picture quality
though. Our new flat panel TV has an image vastly superior to the
previous CRT telly.

All I can say is that your old CRT set must have been especially badly
set up then!

But all is not lost. I've bought a HD camcorder which should arrive
next week, and I'm gonna plug it into the TV and then I'll see a HD
image. How ironic that the only way for me to see a HD image on my
own
TV is to create one myself. And the BluRay/HD DVD players are
insanely
expensive too - prices outta my league at the moment.


The problem with HD is that there are just to many flavours, and the
fact that in PAL land we don't really need it - unlike those who live
in NTSC land.

In article ews.net,
":Jerry:" wrote:

"tg" wrote in message
...

":Jerry:" wrote in message
reenews.net...

Have you noticed that the CRT has disappeared from the 'sheds'
whilst they have all but disappeared from the High Street, at the
same time the Flat Panel TV set has seen the cost of buying a TV
(with a worse picture quality) double or treble - and we're not
even
talking about the cost of HD yet, nor the fact that the only
broadcaster who is (really) transmitting HD programmes is BSkyB and
that it's going to be some years before HD becomes mainstream,
indeed I suspect that some 'HD Ready' sets will *never* receive a
true HD signal!

yes I've been thinking that myself. It seems to be taking forever
for
a HD signal to appear and I'd swear that slimeball Murdoch is behind

Not really, he just has more freedom to do what needs to be done, the
problem, is with HMG / Ofcom - we might *never* see HD terrestrial if
HMG is intent on selling off 'spare and redundant' terrestrial
spectrum once analogue switch off is complete. Of course, Murdoch
could be pulling the strings within HMG I suppose...

it all. I disagree with flat panels having a worse picture quality
though. Our new flat panel TV has an image vastly superior to the
previous CRT telly.

All I can say is that your old CRT set must have been especially badly
set up then!

Many people put up with crap CRT telly without realising their telly is
crap. You should get teletext up on the screen and then:

1) Check the layout of the text is rectangular on the screen so you have
no pin cushion / barrel distortion.

2) More importantly, for text which is not red, blue, or green (e.g.,
yellow), get close to the screen and check that the colour registration
is good. Do this in the shop before buying the telly - with the unit you
intend to purchase.


I did (2) 15 years ago and still have a brilliant picture especially now
on freeview.

":Jerry:" wrote in message
reenews.net...

it all. I disagree with flat panels having a worse picture quality
though. Our new flat panel TV has an image vastly superior to the
previous CRT telly.

All I can say is that your old CRT set must have been especially
badly set up then!

you're kidding surely. I've never seen any CRT TV new or old that
matches our new flat panel for sharpness and quality. CRT is dead.

"tg" wrote in message
...

":Jerry:" wrote in message
reenews.net...

it all. I disagree with flat panels having a worse picture quality
though. Our new flat panel TV has an image vastly superior to the
previous CRT telly.

All I can say is that your old CRT set must have been especially
badly set up then!

you're kidding surely. I've never seen any CRT TV new or old that
matches our new flat panel for sharpness and quality. CRT is dead.


Then I'm seriously suggesting that you have NEVER seen a correctly set
up CRT (which, as 'Tim' pointed out, is quite possible)! CRT monitors
are still the favoured means of grading (colour matching) in post
production.

On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:52:11 +0100, "tg"
wrote:

you're kidding surely. I've never seen any CRT TV new or old that
matches our new flat panel for sharpness and quality. CRT is dead.

CRT still rules where colour accuracy is important.

Mike O'Sullivan wrote:
Alan Holmes wrote:
"housetrained" wrote in message
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"tg" wrote in message
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I love new technology, but the talk of this coming new Sony SHV (Super
High Vision) system is making me sick, having only recently spent
several hundred pounds on a new HD ready TV. Apparently this new super
high vision format makes HD look pale. Here I am, twisting my
handkerchief waiting anxiously for HD transmissions to start so I can
at last enjoy what this new TV can do, and now it's already got a
schedule for the scrap heap. I haven't even seen a HD picture on it
yet! aaaarrrrrgggghhhhh! I can't take any more of this.
It's the same with DVD. It's not been out that long, I've finally
found my feet with recording editing and burning SD movies on the
computer and such and now it's all going to be replaced by either Blue
Ray or that other Toshiba one to accomodate the increased capacity
required by HD. This means all the software I've mastered is
redundant. The capture hardware I have will be obsolete by the time
I blink, and it was expensive. My 4:3 screens belong in a skip.
There's a whole new learning curve ahead of me with HD and Blue ray
and such. And have you seen the price of HD capture hardware for
computers?
Nurse!

BUT, how would you like it if you lived when I was a boy. NO
electricity, only gas or candlelight. The fastest you could get from
A to B was 35mph (fast horse) etc. etc. Nothing changed for hundreds
of years - how very boring!

Very few people had electricity when I was a lad, street lights were
all gas, a man used to come round with a hook on a pole to turn the
things on, I never acheived 35 mph on anything, had a bike for my
eighth birday, but never rode more than 2 miles!

The only person who had a motor vehicle was the baker, and he used to
start it with a handle, and there was a small ring sticking out of the
radiator, which he used to pull on whilst turning the handle, I
thought that ring was vital and if I ever got a motor vehicle, it
would have to have one of those rings!

The milkman came with a horse and cart, he milkman would collect the
bottles from the back of the cart and put them by the door, in the
meantime the horse would walk up to the next house ready for the
milkman to take the milk out of the cart for that house, very
intellegent horses they had in those days.

And, there was the 'stop me and buy one', I miss all that!

Those were the days.


I remember a bloke who came round with a handcart selling shellfish. My
Mum used to send me our with a jar to get a pint of cockles!. Whatever
happened to them!

Health and Safety!