How do these processors compare for tasks like video editing?
the Intel core 2 duo
the Intel dual core xeon
the Intel quad core xeon
Can anyone suggest some sites that have performance comparisons?
Can the dual and quad core xeons be used to build PCs or are they just for
use on Macs?
Which motherboards would support them?
Thanks for any advice.

"Luis Ortega" wrote in message
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How do these processors compare for tasks like video editing?
the Intel core 2 duo
the Intel dual core xeon
the Intel quad core xeon
Can anyone suggest some sites that have performance comparisons?

There are a number of tests you can google.. It is hell though.. trying to
actually differentiate between all of teh available flavers. It is
maddening.
I am trying to put together another render farm here and I am going batty
trying to actually discern the differences.

Can the dual and quad core xeons be used to build PCs or are they just for
use on Macs?

No.. you can run windows on them just fine.

"nappy" wrote in message
t...
teh available flavers. It is
maddening.
so maddening it is affecting my spelling.

Hi,
I found a couple of sites that compared core 2 duos to dual core xeons and
they report that for processor intensive tasks the xeons were slightly
better but for memory intensive tasks the core 2 duos came out better
because of the slower memory speeds of the xeons compared to the core 2 duos
(ddr2 667 vs ddr2 800). The dual core xeons had a faster fsb than the core 2
duos (1333 vs 1066).
These tests were comparing one core2 duo against one dual core xeon.
I imagine that in a system like a Mac pro that uses two dual core xeons, the
performance should be a lot better than for a single core 2 duo PC system,
which is what I'm trying to research.
You may have already seen this site, but I'll pass it on.
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_cont...B6DE9C4BF88D81
What a weird link! I hope it works. I just copied and pasted.

"nappy" wrote in message
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"Luis Ortega" wrote in message
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How do these processors compare for tasks like video editing?
the Intel core 2 duo
the Intel dual core xeon
the Intel quad core xeon
Can anyone suggest some sites that have performance comparisons?

There are a number of tests you can google.. It is hell though.. trying to
actually differentiate between all of teh available flavers. It is
maddening.
I am trying to put together another render farm here and I am going batty
trying to actually discern the differences.

Can the dual and quad core xeons be used to build PCs or are they just
for use on Macs?

No.. you can run windows on them just fine.

"nappy" wrote in news:%KpZh.18188$Kd3.4951
@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net:


"nappy" wrote in message
t...
teh available flavers. It is
maddening.
so maddening it is affecting my spelling.

You need to sit down, relax, and have a bowl of alphabet soup. That'll
help a lot.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Gino) ... letters617blochg3251
(replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")

"Luis Ortega" wrote in
:

SNIP

http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_cont...6800&page=1&co
okie%5Ftest=1&MSCSProfile=95385A1F52DEA1A229D5B375 42054464007FF5A5F
F83019CBFC74881917CEDEFD3B72DEDAAB2527A81F33854582 64EAA20C4009BF6B8
AE29548E299E25277A35D779C5320B10F35802417E2CF0A7D4 2C23B431D0C46FC60
25CB82475EA4CFE486566A29C204B951DCABD898F0E790812C 36D8DA7A90AA4E6E8
F9170A1845CBC730B6DE9C4BF88D81 What a weird link! I hope it works.
I just copied and pasted.

SNIP

And look how the link looks now - all I did was hit reply!

Anyway, I'm really posting to suggest that you investigate TinyURL, at

http://tinyurl.com/

It's the perfect thing for situations like this :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Gino) ... letters617blochg3251
(replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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"nappy" wrote in news:%KpZh.18188$Kd3.4951
@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net:


"nappy" wrote in message
t...
teh available flavers. It is
maddening.
so maddening it is affecting my spelling.

You need to sit down, relax, and have a bowl of alphabet soup. That'll
help a lot.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Gino) ... letters617blochg3251
(replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")

)

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
Anyway, I'm really posting to suggest that you investigate TinyURL, at

http://tinyurl.com/

It's the perfect thing for situations like this :-)

....or just trim the crap out of it!
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_cont...0vs6800&page=1

On 30-04-07 18:35, in article , "Luis
Ortega" wrote:

How do these processors compare for tasks like video editing?
[cut]

Just two web sites I've seen recently:

1. From http://www.artofadambetts.com/weblog/?p=188

To see how fast Mac Pro Clovertown is, check this Quicktime movie of Cinema
4D 10.1 rendering a slightly complex scene (scene is a demo included in
Cinema 4D package):

http://www.artofadambetts.com/movies...arendering.mov

2. http://www.barefeats.com/octopro1.html

More still to come.

--

Pozdrawiam / Best regards

Tadeusz Krzemiñski

Thanks for the links.
I guess that I am trying to determine whether an 8 core is really worth it
in terms of performance now and in the future.
I read some reports that discuss that there is a memory bandwidth bottleneck
for the 8 core given the rest of the specs of the system and so it might not
be a useful choice over the 4 core. The whole system would need to be
developed further, maybe with faster memory speeds beyond 667, and perhaps
some architecture would need refinements to ever get the real benefits of 8
core, regardless of whether the software is being optimized for multicore
systems.
If this is the case, then maybe 8 cores are a good idea that needs the next
generation of refinements for the rest of the components to catch up to its
potential.
I don't really know the stuff well enough to form a competent opinion, so I
keep reading as much as I can before making a buying decision.
My choices now are whether to stick with a 4 core and improve the ram and
fast drives and video card or go with 8 core in the hopes that it already
has adequate support from the rest of the system architecture so that when
software is optimized for it it can really deliver its full potential. You
can always improve the ram and drives and video cards but you are basically
stuck with the processors and underlying architecture until they redesign
the computer itself.
On a separate question, if you want to also run windows, is it better to
install the 64 bit version so that it can access the full amount of ram in
the system rather than the 32 bit version or does this not apply to a
windows installation on the Mac Pro?
Thanks for any advice.


"Tadeusz Krzeminski" wrote in message
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On 30-04-07 18:35, in article , "Luis
Ortega" wrote:

How do these processors compare for tasks like video editing?
[cut]

Just two web sites I've seen recently:

1. From http://www.artofadambetts.com/weblog/?p=188

To see how fast Mac Pro Clovertown is, check this Quicktime movie of
Cinema
4D 10.1 rendering a slightly complex scene (scene is a demo included in
Cinema 4D package):

http://www.artofadambetts.com/movies...arendering.mov

2. http://www.barefeats.com/octopro1.html

More still to come.

--

Pozdrawiam / Best regards

Tadeusz Krzemiñski