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| I want to get a Mac Pro desktop and use FCP Studio 2, but all of my previous experience is on the PC side of computing. I normally build my own computers and have a fair amount of experience doing so, but I read that Macs are generally bought as is and should not be tampered with. I would appreciate some advice on what I can and can't do with a new Mac Pro. On a new Mac Pro that has two 2.66 dual core Intel zeons, 2 x 512 ram modules, and one 250 gig hard drive is it possible to add two 1 gig ram modules for a total of three gigs ram without any negative performance issues? Can I add extra sata hard drives that I used to have in a Pentium PC? I have a few 7200 rpm sata hard drives and also a keyboard with marked keys for video editing that I would like to add to the Mac Pro. Is it Ok to use other keyboards and hard drives without problems? Can I install Windows XP as a second operating system and some Windows software in addition to having the Mac operating system and FCP studio 2 software? If so, could I read or use files created in Windows when in the Apple OS and vice versa? If it's OK to have a Windows OS on the machine, would it be better to install it to a separate hard drive or the same one that the Mac OS is on? Can I use my flat panel Samsung display monitor on the Mac Pro or would I have to get an Apple monitor? The Mac Pro doesn't seem to come with a lan card for connecting to my Virgin broadband service, and I don't want to use a wireless setup for various reasons. Does the Mac Pro actually have built in lan like on my current Asus motherboard or can I add a basic lan card on a PCI slot? Does the Mac Pro have a sound card or integrated sound that I could connect my current speakers to? Please excuse my ignorance if some of this seems dumb but as I said, I have no Mac experience and I have heard that Apple generally is a proprietary system and people don't build them and add whatever internal components that they want. Thanks a lot for any advice. |
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| On 17-04-07 19:54, in article , "Luis Ortega" wrote: I want to get a Mac Pro desktop and use FCP Studio 2, but all of my previous experience is on the PC side of computing. I normally build my own computers and have a fair amount of experience doing so, but I read that Macs are generally bought as is and should not be tampered with. I would appreciate some advice on what I can and can't do with a new Mac Pro. My answers will be rather short, but I've provided external links with some information at the end of my reply. On a new Mac Pro that has two 2.66 dual core Intel zeons, 2 x 512 ram modules, and one 250 gig hard drive is it possible to add two 1 gig ram modules for a total of three gigs ram without any negative performance issues? IMHO yes. There are specific memory configurations that could 'accelerate' hardware a bit (or - to be exact - better utilize its resources). Can I add extra sata hard drives that I used to have in a Pentium PC? I have a few 7200 rpm sata hard drives and also a keyboard with marked keys for video editing that I would like to add to the Mac Pro. Is it Ok to use other keyboards and hard drives without problems? In both cases the answer is positive. Of course it's a keyboard equipped with USB cable? Can I install Windows XP as a second operating system and some Windows software in addition to having the Mac operating system and FCP studio 2 software? If so, could I read or use files created in Windows when in the Apple OS and vice versa? Yes. That can be easily done either using Boot Camp or Parallels Desktop, CrossOver Mac or any other virtualization software. If it's OK to have a Windows OS on the machine, would it be better to install it to a separate hard drive or the same one that the Mac OS is on? AFAIK you're supposed to have it on a system drive. But I'm not 100% sure. Can I use my flat panel Samsung display monitor on the Mac Pro or would I have to get an Apple monitor? You can use whatever display (DVI's the best) you want. The Mac Pro doesn't seem to come with a lan card for connecting to my Virgin broadband service, and I don't want to use a wireless setup for various reasons. Does the Mac Pro actually have built in lan like on my current Asus motherboard or can I add a basic lan card on a PCI slot? Yes, it does. Does the Mac Pro have a sound card or integrated sound that I could connect my current speakers to? Yes. Please refer to the following internet sites, there's a lot of information you need and it's really worth reading it: Apple's official website - http://www.apple.com/macpro/ Mac Pro specifications - http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html Mac Pro review - http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/macpro.ars Apple's Mac Pro - A True PowerMac Successor - http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2816&p=1 -- Pozdrawiam / Best regards Tadeusz Krzemiński |
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| I agree with all of the answers, having done quite a bit of upgrading to my MacPro. I would suggest checking out the cost of extra memory for the MacPro. The memory is very specific to the MacPro and expensive. Also, installing a Windows XP drive under Parallels allows you to install it on any drive since it is a virtual hard disk image rather than a physical drive. Smarty "Tadeusz Krzeminski" wrote in message ... On 17-04-07 19:54, in article , "Luis Ortega" wrote: I want to get a Mac Pro desktop and use FCP Studio 2, but all of my previous experience is on the PC side of computing. I normally build my own computers and have a fair amount of experience doing so, but I read that Macs are generally bought as is and should not be tampered with. I would appreciate some advice on what I can and can't do with a new Mac Pro. My answers will be rather short, but I've provided external links with some information at the end of my reply. On a new Mac Pro that has two 2.66 dual core Intel zeons, 2 x 512 ram modules, and one 250 gig hard drive is it possible to add two 1 gig ram modules for a total of three gigs ram without any negative performance issues? IMHO yes. There are specific memory configurations that could 'accelerate' hardware a bit (or - to be exact - better utilize its resources). Can I add extra sata hard drives that I used to have in a Pentium PC? I have a few 7200 rpm sata hard drives and also a keyboard with marked keys for video editing that I would like to add to the Mac Pro. Is it Ok to use other keyboards and hard drives without problems? In both cases the answer is positive. Of course it's a keyboard equipped with USB cable? Can I install Windows XP as a second operating system and some Windows software in addition to having the Mac operating system and FCP studio 2 software? If so, could I read or use files created in Windows when in the Apple OS and vice versa? Yes. That can be easily done either using Boot Camp or Parallels Desktop, CrossOver Mac or any other virtualization software. If it's OK to have a Windows OS on the machine, would it be better to install it to a separate hard drive or the same one that the Mac OS is on? AFAIK you're supposed to have it on a system drive. But I'm not 100% sure. Can I use my flat panel Samsung display monitor on the Mac Pro or would I have to get an Apple monitor? You can use whatever display (DVI's the best) you want. The Mac Pro doesn't seem to come with a lan card for connecting to my Virgin broadband service, and I don't want to use a wireless setup for various reasons. Does the Mac Pro actually have built in lan like on my current Asus motherboard or can I add a basic lan card on a PCI slot? Yes, it does. Does the Mac Pro have a sound card or integrated sound that I could connect my current speakers to? Yes. Please refer to the following internet sites, there's a lot of information you need and it's really worth reading it: Apple's official website - http://www.apple.com/macpro/ Mac Pro specifications - http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html Mac Pro review - http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/macpro.ars Apple's Mac Pro - A True PowerMac Successor - http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2816&p=1 -- Pozdrawiam / Best regards Tadeusz Krzemiński |
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| Thanks, guys. The memory specific to the Mac Pro on Crucial's website is not nearly as expensive as buying it up front at the Apple store when ordering a Mac Pro. And 7200 rpm sata hard drives are much cheaper to buy on my own than adding them to the initial purchase at the Apple store. I would assume that these sort of components will be compatible and not any harder to install than for a PC. or am I wrong to assume this? "Smarty" wrote in message ... I agree with all of the answers, having done quite a bit of upgrading to my MacPro. I would suggest checking out the cost of extra memory for the MacPro. The memory is very specific to the MacPro and expensive. Also, installing a Windows XP drive under Parallels allows you to install it on any drive since it is a virtual hard disk image rather than a physical drive. Smarty "Tadeusz Krzeminski" wrote in message ... On 17-04-07 19:54, in article , "Luis Ortega" wrote: I want to get a Mac Pro desktop and use FCP Studio 2, but all of my previous experience is on the PC side of computing. I normally build my own computers and have a fair amount of experience doing so, but I read that Macs are generally bought as is and should not be tampered with. I would appreciate some advice on what I can and can't do with a new Mac Pro. My answers will be rather short, but I've provided external links with some information at the end of my reply. On a new Mac Pro that has two 2.66 dual core Intel zeons, 2 x 512 ram modules, and one 250 gig hard drive is it possible to add two 1 gig ram modules for a total of three gigs ram without any negative performance issues? IMHO yes. There are specific memory configurations that could 'accelerate' hardware a bit (or - to be exact - better utilize its resources). Can I add extra sata hard drives that I used to have in a Pentium PC? I have a few 7200 rpm sata hard drives and also a keyboard with marked keys for video editing that I would like to add to the Mac Pro. Is it Ok to use other keyboards and hard drives without problems? In both cases the answer is positive. Of course it's a keyboard equipped with USB cable? Can I install Windows XP as a second operating system and some Windows software in addition to having the Mac operating system and FCP studio 2 software? If so, could I read or use files created in Windows when in the Apple OS and vice versa? Yes. That can be easily done either using Boot Camp or Parallels Desktop, CrossOver Mac or any other virtualization software. If it's OK to have a Windows OS on the machine, would it be better to install it to a separate hard drive or the same one that the Mac OS is on? AFAIK you're supposed to have it on a system drive. But I'm not 100% sure. Can I use my flat panel Samsung display monitor on the Mac Pro or would I have to get an Apple monitor? You can use whatever display (DVI's the best) you want. The Mac Pro doesn't seem to come with a lan card for connecting to my Virgin broadband service, and I don't want to use a wireless setup for various reasons. Does the Mac Pro actually have built in lan like on my current Asus motherboard or can I add a basic lan card on a PCI slot? Yes, it does. Does the Mac Pro have a sound card or integrated sound that I could connect my current speakers to? Yes. Please refer to the following internet sites, there's a lot of information you need and it's really worth reading it: Apple's official website - http://www.apple.com/macpro/ Mac Pro specifications - http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html Mac Pro review - http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/macpro.ars Apple's Mac Pro - A True PowerMac Successor - http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2816&p=1 -- Pozdrawiam / Best regards Tadeusz Krzemiński |
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| Absolutely right. Crucial's price of about $150 per gigabyte is indeed lower than Apple's, and has thankfully been reduced quite a bit since the MacPro was introduced last year (when I paid three times that price!). The SATA drives are extremely easy to install. The MacPro case (unlike the prior PowerMac Dual G5 case) is exceptionally well designed for accessibility. There are 4 drive trays which slide out, automatically aligning and mating the SATA connectors. You merely attach the drive to the drawer with the 4 (Allen head) screws provided with each drawer. The MacPro came with Western Digital in the boot drive, and I added two Seagate Barracudas and another WD Caviar with no problems whatsoever. Smarty "Luis Ortega" wrote in message ... Thanks, guys. The memory specific to the Mac Pro on Crucial's website is not nearly as expensive as buying it up front at the Apple store when ordering a Mac Pro. And 7200 rpm sata hard drives are much cheaper to buy on my own than adding them to the initial purchase at the Apple store. I would assume that these sort of components will be compatible and not any harder to install than for a PC. or am I wrong to assume this? "Smarty" wrote in message ... I agree with all of the answers, having done quite a bit of upgrading to my MacPro. I would suggest checking out the cost of extra memory for the MacPro. The memory is very specific to the MacPro and expensive. Also, installing a Windows XP drive under Parallels allows you to install it on any drive since it is a virtual hard disk image rather than a physical drive. Smarty "Tadeusz Krzeminski" wrote in message ... On 17-04-07 19:54, in article , "Luis Ortega" wrote: I want to get a Mac Pro desktop and use FCP Studio 2, but all of my previous experience is on the PC side of computing. I normally build my own computers and have a fair amount of experience doing so, but I read that Macs are generally bought as is and should not be tampered with. I would appreciate some advice on what I can and can't do with a new Mac Pro. My answers will be rather short, but I've provided external links with some information at the end of my reply. On a new Mac Pro that has two 2.66 dual core Intel zeons, 2 x 512 ram modules, and one 250 gig hard drive is it possible to add two 1 gig ram modules for a total of three gigs ram without any negative performance issues? IMHO yes. There are specific memory configurations that could 'accelerate' hardware a bit (or - to be exact - better utilize its resources). Can I add extra sata hard drives that I used to have in a Pentium PC? I have a few 7200 rpm sata hard drives and also a keyboard with marked keys for video editing that I would like to add to the Mac Pro. Is it Ok to use other keyboards and hard drives without problems? In both cases the answer is positive. Of course it's a keyboard equipped with USB cable? Can I install Windows XP as a second operating system and some Windows software in addition to having the Mac operating system and FCP studio 2 software? If so, could I read or use files created in Windows when in the Apple OS and vice versa? Yes. That can be easily done either using Boot Camp or Parallels Desktop, CrossOver Mac or any other virtualization software. If it's OK to have a Windows OS on the machine, would it be better to install it to a separate hard drive or the same one that the Mac OS is on? AFAIK you're supposed to have it on a system drive. But I'm not 100% sure. Can I use my flat panel Samsung display monitor on the Mac Pro or would I have to get an Apple monitor? You can use whatever display (DVI's the best) you want. The Mac Pro doesn't seem to come with a lan card for connecting to my Virgin broadband service, and I don't want to use a wireless setup for various reasons. Does the Mac Pro actually have built in lan like on my current Asus motherboard or can I add a basic lan card on a PCI slot? Yes, it does. Does the Mac Pro have a sound card or integrated sound that I could connect my current speakers to? Yes. Please refer to the following internet sites, there's a lot of information you need and it's really worth reading it: Apple's official website - http://www.apple.com/macpro/ Mac Pro specifications - http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html Mac Pro review - http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/macpro.ars Apple's Mac Pro - A True PowerMac Successor - http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2816&p=1 -- Pozdrawiam / Best regards Tadeusz Krzemiński |
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| On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:56:16 GMT, "Luis Ortega" wrote: Thanks, guys. The memory specific to the Mac Pro on Crucial's website is not nearly as expensive as buying it up front at the Apple store when ordering a Mac Pro. And 7200 rpm sata hard drives are much cheaper to buy on my own than adding them to the initial purchase at the Apple store. I would assume that these sort of components will be compatible and not any harder to install than for a PC. or am I wrong to assume this? Yeah. And it's not just a Mac thing. Check Dell's prices for upgrades and extras against the street price. It can be quite frightening. Drives slot into a Mac Pro very easily. I seem to recall they show off by providing non-standard screws :-) |
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| The heads of the screws are decorative but take a standard Phillips head screw driver. I mistakenly said Allan head previously and now correct myself. The threads of the screws are the same size used to bolt into the disk drives in any other mounting method, and therefore you can easily swap the Apple screws with conventional screws and it will make no difference. In fact, the decorative screws are hidden inside the tray / case when the drives are installed..... Smarty "Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:56:16 GMT, "Luis Ortega" wrote: Thanks, guys. The memory specific to the Mac Pro on Crucial's website is not nearly as expensive as buying it up front at the Apple store when ordering a Mac Pro. And 7200 rpm sata hard drives are much cheaper to buy on my own than adding them to the initial purchase at the Apple store. I would assume that these sort of components will be compatible and not any harder to install than for a PC. or am I wrong to assume this? Yeah. And it's not just a Mac thing. Check Dell's prices for upgrades and extras against the street price. It can be quite frightening. Drives slot into a Mac Pro very easily. I seem to recall they show off by providing non-standard screws :-) |
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