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Hard Drive vs Mini DV



 
 
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Old March 14th 07, 04:22 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
mike
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Default Hard Drive vs Mini DV


In terms of picture quality, can the cheapest HD (£300) match budget
DVs (£200)
-indoor and out,
-good and low light?

or is it up to individual taste?

Secondly as HD camcorders use USB, does this mean there is no loss of
quality when transfered to PC for editing?

Are there any Mini DVs where transfer to PC does not entail a loss in
quality?

cheers

mike

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Old March 14th 07, 04:41 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Trev
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Default Hard Drive vs Mini DV


"mike" wrote in message
ups.com...

In terms of picture quality, can the cheapest HD (£300) match budget
DVs (£200)
-indoor and out,
-good and low light?

or is it up to individual taste?

Secondly as HD camcorders use USB, does this mean there is no loss of
quality when transfered to PC for editing?

Are there any Mini DVs where transfer to PC does not entail a loss in
quality?

cheers

mike

HD means compressing to MPEG 2 during recording and so a lose of quality.
Weather you see the difference is another mater.

DV is the next best to pro DV and has no lose of quality

There should be no lose in quality when transferring. A DV uses firewire as
a rule so that editing application can form a two way connection. this
allows the application to control the camcorder to start stop ect.





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Old March 14th 07, 06:09 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Tony Morgan
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Default Hard Drive vs Mini DV

In message . com, mike
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Are there any Mini DVs where transfer to PC does not entail a loss in
quality?


All of them.
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Tony Morgan
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Old March 14th 07, 07:18 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Becky
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Default Hard Drive vs Mini DV


"Tony Morgan" wrote in message
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In message . com, mike
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Are there any Mini DVs where transfer to PC does not entail a loss in
quality?


All of them.
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Tony Morgan


Can you tell me Tony how i would transfer to my PC without any loss in
quality from a JVC dv camcorder i have that doesnt have a firewire socket ??


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Old March 14th 07, 07:32 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Trev
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Default Hard Drive vs Mini DV


"Becky" wrote in message
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"Tony Morgan" wrote in message
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In message . com, mike
writes
Are there any Mini DVs where transfer to PC does not entail a loss in
quality?


All of them.
--
Tony Morgan


Can you tell me Tony how i would transfer to my PC without any loss in
quality from a JVC dv camcorder i have that doesnt have a firewire socket
??

There would be no further lose, but it may not be as fast.


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Old March 14th 07, 07:55 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
John Russell
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Default Hard Drive vs Mini DV

Hard Drives are relatively more expensive than DV VCR mechanisms, which
after years of production are incredibly good and much cheaper than they
where. To offset the higher cost of the hard drive they have to use cheaper
components elsewhere, such as using optics found in the bottom end of the DV
range. Combine this with the use of poor MPEG2 encoders and you end up with
poor recordings even before you think of transferring them to PC.


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Old March 14th 07, 09:26 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Tony Morgan
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Default Hard Drive vs Mini DV

In message , Becky
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"Tony Morgan" wrote in message
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In message . com, mike
writes
Are there any Mini DVs where transfer to PC does not entail a loss in
quality?


All of them.
--
Tony Morgan


Can you tell me Tony how i would transfer to my PC without any loss in
quality from a JVC dv camcorder i have that doesnt have a firewire socket ??

Sorry I can't help you there. I haven't come across or heard of any
miniDV camcorders without firewire.

What's the model that you have?
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Tony Morgan
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Old March 14th 07, 09:31 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Tony Morgan
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Default Hard Drive vs Mini DV

In message , Trev
writes

"Becky" wrote in message
...

"Tony Morgan" wrote in message
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In message . com, mike
writes
Are there any Mini DVs where transfer to PC does not entail a loss in
quality?

All of them.
--
Tony Morgan


Can you tell me Tony how i would transfer to my PC without any loss in
quality from a JVC dv camcorder i have that doesnt have a firewire socket
??

There would be no further lose, but it may not be as fast.

I thought that to prevent losing frames, you had to be able to transfer
at least as fast as the data spools off the tape. Your hard disk also
has to be able to keep up with the data streaming off the tape (another
cause of dropped frames).

That's why a lot of people used to recommend using a second HDD, to
avoid dropped frames, though with today's faster HDDs it's not usually a
problem.

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Tony Morgan
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Old March 15th 07, 10:30 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Laurence Payne
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Default Hard Drive vs Mini DV

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:18:11 GMT, "Becky" wrote:

Can you tell me Tony how i would transfer to my PC without any loss in
quality from a JVC dv camcorder i have that doesnt have a firewire socket ??


Are you sure it's a dv camera? I thought Firewire was pretty much
synonymous with dv? What model camera is it?

Are you maybe confused by the Firewire port being labeled as i-Link?
It's the same thing.
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Old March 15th 07, 11:20 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Becky
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Default Hard Drive vs Mini DV


"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:18:11 GMT, "Becky" wrote:

Can you tell me Tony how i would transfer to my PC without any loss in
quality from a JVC dv camcorder i have that doesnt have a firewire socket
??


Are you sure it's a dv camera? I thought Firewire was pretty much
synonymous with dv? What model camera is it?

Are you maybe confused by the Firewire port being labeled as i-Link?
It's the same thing.


Sure, its the JVC-DV1, has no I-link or firewire connection.
cheers


 




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