In message , Laurence Payne
writes
Yeah, very erudite. But that wasn't the question. He doesn't want to
know how to play a given avi, he wants to know how to create one with
maximum compatibility.

**** off troll.

You're only here to carp and start arguments.
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Tony Morgan

In message , Laurence Payne
writes
So you're recommending Flash? How should he go about converting a
video to Flash?

**** off troll - you're only here to carp and start arguments.

Anyone feel helpful? :-)

That you'll never be.
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Tony Morgan

In message , Laurence Payne
writes
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:10:47 GMT, "G Hardy"
wrote:

- How to convert this avi file to a file which can be excepted to 95%
of computers?


If you encode your file using the Cinepac codec, it will play on most PCs -
but as Richard said, video compression has come on in leaps and bounds since
you installed WinME. If your viewer is as out-of-touch as you are, then fair
enough; but it's more likely that your viewer will benefit from a newer
codec.


Phew! An answer, at last! :-)

Trolling yet again?
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Tony Morgan

"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:47:03 GMT, "G Hardy"
wrote:

No. But there are different types of Mpegs; MPG1 and MPG2.

MPEG-2 requires a paid license, so you won't be able to play MPG files
encoded with MPEG-2 on a relatively fresh windows installation. If you pay
for a codec such as the one you can get from MainConcept, or you install a
DVD playback program such as Cyberlink PowerDVD, so MPG is a "container",
viewed from that perspective...

So what format do you suggest he uses for maximum compatibility?


He can not its what the creator picks.
6 years back any downloaded clips would be mpeg1 QuickTime or realplayer.
now DIVX can make files smaller then mpeg 1 with near mpeg 2 quality. It's a
mater of keeping up with the times.

I have some times mad a short clip to demonstrate a graphic technique and
used WMV as the format because the recipient will be most likely to have WMP
at least.

On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:34:50 +0000, Tony Morgan
wrote:

...and again, you've snipped out the main question in order to lecture
us on a detail.

**** off troll.

You never contribute - only carp and try to start arguments.

So contribute. What codec do you recommend?

On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:34:50 +0000, Tony Morgan
wrote:

...and again, you've snipped out the main question in order to lecture
us on a detail.

**** off troll.

You never contribute - only carp and try to start arguments.

Liar. I've put you right on audio matters a few times, if nothing
else.

"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:10:47 GMT, "G Hardy"
wrote:

- How to convert this avi file to a file which can be excepted to 95%
of computers?

If you encode your file using the Cinepac codec, it will play on most
PCs -
but as Richard said, video compression has come on in leaps and bounds
since
you installed WinME. If your viewer is as out-of-touch as you are, then
fair
enough; but it's more likely that your viewer will benefit from a newer
codec.

Phew! An answer, at last! :-)

Just not a very good one. )

I think the reason everybody has been avoiding the issue is because no
single codec is both "good" and comes close to "universally acceptable". The
content of the video itself can sometimes dictate the best codec to use for
a particular project. At least one of the newsgroups in the crosspost list
contains a few denizens who jump hard on anything thought to be "poor
advice", so if the question is not actually answered to avoid the likely
resulting conflict.

In message , G Hardy
writes
Snipped....

so if the question is not actually answered to avoid the likely
resulting conflict.

So well illustrated by the eight posts here in this very thread made by
our resident troll Laurence Payne, who only seeks to stir up arguments.

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Tony Morgan

wrote:
On Mar 11, 4:48 pm, Tony Morgan wrote:
In message . com,
writes



This is again a question about avi files. I never thought that it is
another one of such messy thing that we created. I tried to open an
avi file in my PC using different versions of Windows Media Players,
and they did not recognized it. When I checked the internet, I found
out that there are different versions of avi which are exceptable to
different version of computers. What a mess. It is similar to saving
a spreadsheet file (xls), in which there are so many choices and
confusing. They are all with extension .xls, but cater to different
version of the software (in which changing perhaps every other day!).
My questions a
- How to convert this avi file to a file which can be excepted to 95%
of computers? If you have an mp3 file, you likely be able to play it
on most computer, dont' you?
- What file is generally accepted by many computer? I just want a
basic format that can be opened by most computers (old and new).
I recall a long time ago, an avi file (whatever it was called or
version) can be open easily and compatible for most OS. Is this true?
Is avi file equivalent to MPEG4 file?
Thanks for the info.
Why do you need to post the same article three times ? It won't help you
to get a response more quickly.

AVI is nothing more than a container for any type of data. Think of it
being like an envelope which can contain a letter, a cheque, a birthday
card - the envelope is an envelope, and it can contain anything.

To find out what an AVI contains use Gspot, available from hehttp://www.headbands.com/gspot/download.html

AVIs identify what type of data is within the file,using something
called a "FourC" code - which identifies what codec was used to produce
the AVI.

Gspot tells you which codec (or codec type) was used to produce it, and
it tells you if you have an appropriate codec on your machine. If you
don't have the particular codec (or codec type) a Google search should
locate it (or an alternative codec) and allow you to download and
install.

--
Tony Morgan

Sorry... perhaps I was too impatient!. I did not know that it was
shown three times. I must have clicked "posted" again as the system
was too slow.
Thanks for the info

Is there a common, basic codec that most players ( winamp, WMP, etc)
can open and play? Why should there be lots of different codec that
you have to download? Is this like printing document, in which there
are many print drivers in the print option?

What about an . mpg file... is it also like an "envelope", similar to
avi?

Thanks for info


www.videolan.org

Their free Videolan player will play most any flavor of avi file.

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:34:50 +0000, Tony Morgan
wrote:

...and again, you've snipped out the main question in order to lecture
us on a detail.
**** off troll.

You never contribute - only carp and try to start arguments.

So contribute. What codec do you recommend?


You are insisting on a 'This is the Best', answer to a question that
cannot have a 'this is the best' answer.

One must deal with the reality of the world rather than rail at how it
does not fit ones option of conformity.

In the Bittorret world, it appears that the Xvid codec rules
It would be a rare windows box that would not play a Wmv file
It would be a rate Mac box that would not play a Mov file

But then, people start getting concerned about size and quality. So they
start encoding into some of newer codecs H264 and such. Eventually, its
like complaining that your old turntable won't play cassette tapes and
CD's.

You can divorce your thinking for the requirement that unless it plays
in Windows Media Player, its just not standard enough. There are some
small, and free for distribution apps like Media Player Classic and
VideoLan that will fit onto most any disk you stick a video file on.

That said, its usually possible to install components so that Windows
Media Player WILL handle most all of those formats, but that sort of
invalidates the user friendly doctrine you were originally aiming at
because it requires the user to lift one or more fingers to prepare the
system. Far easier it to just stick a small player on the disk with the
instruction - 'if file not viewable on your computer, install this
application, and then enjoy the video.'