I have a Canopus Twinpact DV capture device and also a Pinnacle 500-USB video capture device. They both work fine for capturing
video with audio but is there a way to make windows use these devices as audio recording devices only? ie: without the video? (kind
of like using it as a sound card).
Neither device appears as a sound device in Control Panel/Sounds and Audio devices but maybe there's a way to use them as such? If
so it might save me the cost of forking out for an M-Audio 410 or similar.
Thanks for any advice.

"tg" wrote in message
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I have a Canopus Twinpact DV capture device and also a Pinnacle 500-USB
video capture device. They both work fine for capturing
video with audio but is there a way to make windows use these devices as
audio recording devices only? ie: without the video? (kind of like using
it as a sound card).
Neither device appears as a sound device in Control Panel/Sounds and Audio
devices but maybe there's a way to use them as such? If
so it might save me the cost of forking out for an M-Audio 410 or similar.
Thanks for any advice.

They are transferring data not recording it

"Trev" trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM wrote in message ...

"tg" wrote in message ...
I have a Canopus Twinpact DV capture device and also a Pinnacle 500-USB video capture device. They both work fine for capturing
video with audio but is there a way to make windows use these devices as audio recording devices only? ie: without the video?
(kind of like using it as a sound card).
Neither device appears as a sound device in Control Panel/Sounds and Audio devices but maybe there's a way to use them as such?
If
so it might save me the cost of forking out for an M-Audio 410 or similar.
Thanks for any advice.

They are transferring data not recording it

I know that Trev, get a clue. I'm talking about recording the audio on the PC.

"tg" wrote in message
...

"Trev" trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM wrote in message
...

"tg" wrote in message
...
I have a Canopus Twinpact DV capture device and also a Pinnacle
500-USB video capture device. They both work fine for capturing
video with audio but is there a way to make windows use these
devices as audio recording devices only? ie: without the video?
(kind of like using it as a sound card).
Neither device appears as a sound device in Control Panel/Sounds
and Audio devices but maybe there's a way to use them as such?
If
so it might save me the cost of forking out for an M-Audio 410 or
similar.
Thanks for any advice.

They are transferring data not recording it

I know that Trev, get a clue. I'm talking about recording the audio
on the PC.


It's you who needs to find the clue, the firewire port is not a
capture port, it's purely a data / interface port (just like a USB
port), you would need some form of audio capture device to use your
IEEE1394 port - just like you need your Pinnacle video capture device
to use your USB port for video.

":Jerry:" wrote in message reenews.net...

"tg" wrote in message ...

"Trev" trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM wrote in message ...

"tg" wrote in message ...
I have a Canopus Twinpact DV capture device and also a Pinnacle 500-USB video capture device. They both work fine for capturing
video with audio but is there a way to make windows use these devices as audio recording devices only? ie: without the video?
(kind of like using it as a sound card).
Neither device appears as a sound device in Control Panel/Sounds and Audio devices but maybe there's a way to use them as
such?
If
so it might save me the cost of forking out for an M-Audio 410 or similar.
Thanks for any advice.

They are transferring data not recording it

I know that Trev, get a clue. I'm talking about recording the audio on the PC.


It's you who needs to find the clue, the firewire port is not a capture port, it's purely a data / interface port (just like a
USB port), you would need some form of audio capture device to use your IEEE1394 port - just like you need your Pinnacle video
capture device to use your USB port for video.

yes but thats exactly the point in my original post. I already have the capture device in the form of a Canopus Twinpact (firewire)
and/or Pinnacle 500-USB. Both of these units capture audio as well as video and transfer the data to the PC. I was hoping I could
use the either of these units as an external sound device, in the light of the fact that they can capture audio.

"tg" wrote in message
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snip

yes but thats exactly the point in my original post. I already have
the capture device in the form of a Canopus Twinpact (firewire)
and/or Pinnacle 500-USB. Both of these units capture audio as well
as video and transfer the data to the PC. I was hoping I could use
the either of these units as an external sound device, in the light
of the fact that they can capture audio.


You might need to feed a video source as well as your audio, many
'video' devices use the sync in the video as a means to supply a time
base to the audio. If so you will have to capture both and then use
something like Virtual-Dub to strip the audio tracks out.

":Jerry:" wrote...
"tg" wrote ...
"Trev" wrote...
"tg" wrote ...
I have a Canopus Twinpact DV capture device and also a Pinnacle
500-USB video capture device. They both work fine for capturing
video with audio but is there a way to make windows use these
devices as audio recording devices only? ie: without the video?
(kind of like using it as a sound card).
Neither device appears as a sound device in Control Panel/Sounds
and Audio devices but maybe there's a way to use them as such?
If
so it might save me the cost of forking out for an M-Audio 410 or
similar.
Thanks for any advice.

They are transferring data not recording it

I know that Trev, get a clue. I'm talking about recording the audio
on the PC.

It's you who needs to find the clue, the firewire port is not a
capture port, it's purely a data / interface port (just like a USB
port), you would need some form of audio capture device to use your
IEEE1394 port - just like you need your Pinnacle video capture device
to use your USB port for video.

The Canopus Twinpact *is* a "capture port". It takes analog
audio and video in and turns it into a DV stream for capture
by the computer via the Firewire port. This appears to be
beyond dispute or opinion. A quick check of the manufacturer's
web page will confirm this to anyone who cares to look.

What "tg" appears to be asking is whether there is any software
that takes the DV stream and records only the audio portion.
Another good question is whether the device even works without
a video input?

I am not aware of any application that will record only the audio
portion of a DV stream. Perhaps others do?

Also note that the audio portion of the typical A/V chips such as
the Canopus uses are not noted for their audio performance.
It would be OK for general use, but may not have the performance
one would like for serious music production, etc.

"tg" wrote in message
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":Jerry:" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"tg" wrote in message
...

"Trev" trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM wrote in message
...

"tg" wrote in message
...
I have a Canopus Twinpact DV capture device and also a Pinnacle 500-USB
video capture device. They both work fine for capturing
video with audio but is there a way to make windows use these devices
as audio recording devices only? ie: without the video?
(kind of like using it as a sound card).
Neither device appears as a sound device in Control Panel/Sounds and
Audio devices but maybe there's a way to use them as
such?
If
so it might save me the cost of forking out for an M-Audio 410 or
similar.
Thanks for any advice.

They are transferring data not recording it

I know that Trev, get a clue. I'm talking about recording the audio on
the PC.


It's you who needs to find the clue, the firewire port is not a capture
port, it's purely a data / interface port (just like a
USB port), you would need some form of audio capture device to use your
IEEE1394 port - just like you need your Pinnacle video
capture device to use your USB port for video.

yes but thats exactly the point in my original post. I already have the
capture device in the form of a Canopus Twinpact (firewire)
and/or Pinnacle 500-USB. Both of these units capture audio as well as
video and transfer the data to the PC. I was hoping I could use the either
of these units as an external sound device, in the light of the fact that
they can capture audio.

Dont they just convert Analogue to Digital. A capture devise would be a
camcorder, Mini disc recorder Or such

In message , Richard Crowley
writes
":Jerry:" wrote...
"tg" wrote ...
"Trev" wrote...
"tg" wrote ...
I have a Canopus Twinpact DV capture device and also a Pinnacle
500-USB video capture device. They both work fine for capturing
video with audio but is there a way to make windows use these
devices as audio recording devices only? ie: without the video?
(kind of like using it as a sound card).
Neither device appears as a sound device in Control Panel/Sounds
and Audio devices but maybe there's a way to use them as such?
If
so it might save me the cost of forking out for an M-Audio 410 or
similar.
Thanks for any advice.

They are transferring data not recording it

I know that Trev, get a clue. I'm talking about recording the audio
on the PC.

It's you who needs to find the clue, the firewire port is not a
capture port, it's purely a data / interface port (just like a USB
port), you would need some form of audio capture device to use your
IEEE1394 port - just like you need your Pinnacle video capture device
to use your USB port for video.

The Canopus Twinpact *is* a "capture port". It takes analog
audio and video in and turns it into a DV stream for capture
by the computer via the Firewire port. This appears to be
beyond dispute or opinion. A quick check of the manufacturer's
web page will confirm this to anyone who cares to look.

What "tg" appears to be asking is whether there is any software
that takes the DV stream and records only the audio portion.
Another good question is whether the device even works without
a video input?

I am not aware of any application that will record only the audio
portion of a DV stream. Perhaps others do?

Also note that the audio portion of the typical A/V chips such as
the Canopus uses are not noted for their audio performance.
It would be OK for general use, but may not have the performance
one would like for serious music production, etc.

ISTM that you are all missing the wood for the trees. Assuming that tg
is are transferring/capturing (call it what you like) from a camcorder,
they why bother with firewire (or your external devices). Since he only
wants the audio, why doesn't he simply hook up your headphone socket on
his camcorder (most camcorders have one) and connect to his PC's mic
input (3.5mm to 3.5mm). Then he can use any audio recording
program/facility he likes. Though I've never used it I believe that
there is a native windows recording facility. If he has any sound
software then he can use that.

"KISS" :-)

--
Tony Morgan

"Tony Morgan" wrote in message
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snip

ISTM that you are all missing the wood for the trees. Assuming that
tg is are transferring/capturing (call it what you like) from a
camcorder, they why bother with firewire (or your external devices).
Since he only wants the audio, why doesn't he simply hook up your
headphone socket on his camcorder (most camcorders have one) and
connect to his PC's mic input (3.5mm to 3.5mm). Then he can use any
audio recording program/facility he likes. Though I've never used it
I believe that there is a native windows recording facility. If he
has any sound software then he can use that.

"KISS" :-)


Assuming he even has a camera, he might be capturing old VHS tapes for
all we know.