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Old January 17th 07, 05:44 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Mike Gasson
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Is a Lacie 7200 320gb USB 2 drive 'adequate' to capture from mini-dv or
is it only good enough for storage after capture with the IDE drive? I
believe USB 2 is 480Mb/s but I'm not sure what the 4200 drive would
transfer at.
XPH SP2 Athlon 64 3700+ 1gb memory 80gb 4200 HD.
Thanks.
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Old January 17th 07, 05:54 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
G Hardy
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"Mike Gasson" wrote in message
...
Is a Lacie 7200 320gb USB 2 drive 'adequate' to capture from mini-dv or is
it only good enough for storage after capture with the IDE drive? I
believe USB 2 is 480Mb/s but I'm not sure what the 4200 drive would
transfer at.
XPH SP2 Athlon 64 3700+ 1gb memory 80gb 4200 HD.


USB2 is 480Mb/s _maximum_
Nevertheless, it's still about ten times faster than DV - you should be able
to capture without any dropped frames. Make sure you have as few USB devices
plugged in as possible, and that any that need to stay in (such as the mouse
or keyboard, if applicable) are unused during capture.

I've successfully captured firewire to USB2 HDD on a laptop.


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Old January 17th 07, 06:30 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
:Jerry:
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"G Hardy" wrote in message
...
"Mike Gasson" wrote in message
...
Is a Lacie 7200 320gb USB 2 drive 'adequate' to capture from
mini-dv or is it only good enough for storage after capture with
the IDE drive? I believe USB 2 is 480Mb/s but I'm not sure what the
4200 drive would transfer at.
XPH SP2 Athlon 64 3700+ 1gb memory 80gb 4200 HD.


USB2 is 480Mb/s _maximum_
Nevertheless, it's still about ten times faster than DV - you should
be able to capture without any dropped frames. Make sure you have as
few USB devices plugged in as possible, and that any that need to
stay in (such as the mouse or keyboard, if applicable) are unused
during capture.


Two points, 1/. the drive should *not* take it's power from the USB
port (it should be powered by it's own supply) and 2/. you don't want
to be using any other USB device on that channel (at least) in case
the data rate drops. Personally, IMO, the OP would be better thinking
in term of a External HDD connected via a IEEE1394 (firewire) port if
it's really impractical/impossible to use an internal IDE drive.
--
Regards, Jerry.
Location - United Kingdom.
In the first instance please reply to group, sorry,
Emails to the reply-to address are deleted unread.


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Old January 17th 07, 07:40 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Mike Gasson
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Default USB drive

In message ews.net,
":Jerry:" writes

"G Hardy" wrote in message
...
"Mike Gasson" wrote in message
...
Is a Lacie 7200 320gb USB 2 drive 'adequate' to capture from
mini-dv or is it only good enough for storage after capture with
the IDE drive? I believe USB 2 is 480Mb/s but I'm not sure what the
4200 drive would transfer at.
XPH SP2 Athlon 64 3700+ 1gb memory 80gb 4200 HD.

Two points, 1/. the drive should *not* take it's power from the USB
port (it should be powered by it's own supply) and 2/. you don't want
to be using any other USB device on that channel (at least) in case
the data rate drops. Personally, IMO, the OP would be better thinking
in term of a External HDD connected via a IEEE1394 (firewire) port if
it's really impractical/impossible to use an internal IDE drive.

1. The drive has it's own power supply.
2. I'm not sure what you mean by 'that channel'. I do have 2 unused USB
ports on the laptop and 1 spare on a separately powered hub. In use are
mouse, USB printer (rarely used) and another 40gb USB drive I use as
backup.
The firewire port will be in use to connect the camera for capture.
Isn't a firewire connection slower than USB?
Thanks.
--
bertieboy
  #5  
Old January 17th 07, 07:43 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Mike Gasson
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Default USB drive

In message , G Hardy
writes
"Mike Gasson" wrote in message
.. .
Is a Lacie 7200 320gb USB 2 drive 'adequate' to capture from mini-dv or is
it only good enough for storage after capture with the IDE drive? I
believe USB 2 is 480Mb/s but I'm not sure what the 4200 drive would
transfer at.
XPH SP2 Athlon 64 3700+ 1gb memory 80gb 4200 HD.


USB2 is 480Mb/s _maximum_
Nevertheless, it's still about ten times faster than DV - you should be able
to capture without any dropped frames. Make sure you have as few USB devices
plugged in as possible, and that any that need to stay in (such as the mouse
or keyboard, if applicable) are unused during capture.

I've successfully captured firewire to USB2 HDD on a laptop.

That is encouraging! Many thanks.
--
bertieboy
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Old January 17th 07, 08:01 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Trev
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Default USB drive


"Mike Gasson" wrote in message
...
In message ews.net,
":Jerry:" writes

"G Hardy" wrote in message
...
"Mike Gasson" wrote in message
...
Is a Lacie 7200 320gb USB 2 drive 'adequate' to capture from
mini-dv or is it only good enough for storage after capture with
the IDE drive? I believe USB 2 is 480Mb/s but I'm not sure what the
4200 drive would transfer at.
XPH SP2 Athlon 64 3700+ 1gb memory 80gb 4200 HD.

Two points, 1/. the drive should *not* take it's power from the USB
port (it should be powered by it's own supply) and 2/. you don't want
to be using any other USB device on that channel (at least) in case
the data rate drops. Personally, IMO, the OP would be better thinking
in term of a External HDD connected via a IEEE1394 (firewire) port if
it's really impractical/impossible to use an internal IDE drive.

1. The drive has it's own power supply.
2. I'm not sure what you mean by 'that channel'. I do have 2 unused USB
ports on the laptop and 1 spare on a separately powered hub. In use are
mouse, USB printer (rarely used) and another 40gb USB drive I use as
backup.
The firewire port will be in use to connect the camera for capture. Isn't
a firewire connection slower than USB?
Thanks.
--
bertieboy

USB ports come in pairs pluged into a Root hub on the board


  #7  
Old January 17th 07, 08:49 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
:Jerry:
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"Mike Gasson" wrote in message
...
In message
ews.net,
":Jerry:" writes

snip
Two points, 1/. the drive should *not* take it's power from the USB
port (it should be powered by it's own supply) and 2/. you don't
want
to be using any other USB device on that channel (at least) in case
the data rate drops. Personally, IMO, the OP would be better
thinking
in term of a External HDD connected via a IEEE1394 (firewire) port
if
it's really impractical/impossible to use an internal IDE drive.


1. The drive has it's own power supply.
2. I'm not sure what you mean by 'that channel'. I do have 2 unused
USB ports on the laptop and 1 spare on a separately powered hub. In
use are mouse, USB printer (rarely used) and another 40gb USB drive
I use as backup.


So, in that case you only want the external drive connected, that
inclued the hub (which counts as a device).

The firewire port will be in use to connect the camera for capture.
Isn't a firewire connection slower than USB?


No, USB2 can on paper (in theory) exceed the data rate of 1394a BUT in
real life it doesn't.

BTW, what is your IEEE1394 (firewire) port configuration, is it a
single port on the MB or is it via a PCMCIA cardbus adaptor etc., if
the former does the lap-top have a cardbus slot?
--
Regards, Jerry.
Location - United Kingdom.
In the first instance please reply to group, sorry,
Emails to the reply-to address are deleted unread.


  #8  
Old January 17th 07, 08:52 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
bertieboy
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In message , Trev
writes

"Mike Gasson" wrote in message
.. .
In message ews.net,
":Jerry:" writes

"G Hardy" wrote in message
...
"Mike Gasson" wrote in message
...
Is a Lacie 7200 320gb USB 2 drive 'adequate' to capture from
mini-dv or is it only good enough for storage after capture with
the IDE drive? I believe USB 2 is 480Mb/s but I'm not sure what the
4200 drive would transfer at.
XPH SP2 Athlon 64 3700+ 1gb memory 80gb 4200 HD.
Two points, 1/. the drive should *not* take it's power from the USB
port (it should be powered by it's own supply) and 2/. you don't want
to be using any other USB device on that channel (at least) in case
the data rate drops. Personally, IMO, the OP would be better thinking
in term of a External HDD connected via a IEEE1394 (firewire) port if
it's really impractical/impossible to use an internal IDE drive.

1. The drive has it's own power supply.
2. I'm not sure what you mean by 'that channel'. I do have 2 unused USB
ports on the laptop and 1 spare on a separately powered hub. In use are
mouse, USB printer (rarely used) and another 40gb USB drive I use as
backup.
The firewire port will be in use to connect the camera for capture. Isn't
a firewire connection slower than USB?
Thanks.
--
bertieboy

USB ports come in pairs pluged into a Root hub on the board

OK I see now, thanks.
--
bertieboy
  #9  
Old January 17th 07, 08:57 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
bertieboy
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Posts: 7
Default USB drive

In message ews.net,
":Jerry:" writes

"Mike Gasson" wrote in message
.. .
In message
ews.net,
":Jerry:" writes

snip
Two points, 1/. the drive should *not* take it's power from the USB
port (it should be powered by it's own supply) and 2/. you don't
want
to be using any other USB device on that channel (at least) in case
the data rate drops. Personally, IMO, the OP would be better
thinking
in term of a External HDD connected via a IEEE1394 (firewire) port
if
it's really impractical/impossible to use an internal IDE drive.


1. The drive has it's own power supply.
2. I'm not sure what you mean by 'that channel'. I do have 2 unused
USB ports on the laptop and 1 spare on a separately powered hub. In
use are mouse, USB printer (rarely used) and another 40gb USB drive
I use as backup.


So, in that case you only want the external drive connected, that
inclued the hub (which counts as a device).

The firewire port will be in use to connect the camera for capture.
Isn't a firewire connection slower than USB?


No, USB2 can on paper (in theory) exceed the data rate of 1394a BUT in
real life it doesn't.


OK.

BTW, what is your IEEE1394 (firewire) port configuration, is it a
single port on the MB or is it via a PCMCIA cardbus adaptor etc., if
the former does the lap-top have a cardbus slot?

Just a firewire connector on the laptop, but there is a PCMCIA slot
which I've never used. I'm not even sure how I would use it!
--
bertieboy
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Old January 17th 07, 09:08 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
:Jerry:
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Posts: 127
Default USB drive


"bertieboy" wrote in message
...
In message
ews.net,
":Jerry:" writes

snip

BTW, what is your IEEE1394 (firewire) port configuration, is it a
single port on the MB or is it via a PCMCIA cardbus adaptor etc., if
the former does the lap-top have a cardbus slot?


Just a firewire connector on the laptop, but there is a PCMCIA slot
which I've never used. I'm not even sure how I would use it!


In which case, I suspect that you could gain another 1394 port with
the right adapter, allowing you to use am external firewire HDD, might
be an potion it investigate if using the USB port doesn't work.

BTW, bit confusing the change of name!...


 




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