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miniDV or HardDisk



 
 
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Old December 26th 06, 11:03 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Brink
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We are looking for a new camcorder to replace our old Panasonic VHS-C.
But we find it difficult to decide if we schould choose a mini DV og
HardDisk type.
Is there a big difference in the quality ? , and is the 3CCD camcorders that
much better ?
Another issue is the zoom, how much is suitable, because the cheaper
camcorders has a lot more.
Does anybody have any experience with som of theese camcorders ?
Sony Handycam HDR-SR1
Sony Handycam DCR SR90
Panasonic PV-GS180/280
Panasonic e.cam NV GS500

Regards,
Brink


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Old December 26th 06, 12:11 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
John Russell
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"Brink" wrote in message
. ..
We are looking for a new camcorder to replace our old Panasonic VHS-C.
But we find it difficult to decide if we schould choose a mini DV og
HardDisk type.
Is there a big difference in the quality ? , and is the 3CCD camcorders
that much better ?
Another issue is the zoom, how much is suitable, because the cheaper
camcorders has a lot more.
Does anybody have any experience with som of theese camcorders ?
Sony Handycam HDR-SR1
Sony Handycam DCR SR90
Panasonic PV-GS180/280
Panasonic e.cam NV GS500

Regards,
Brink


Don't assume that as Hard Disk recorders must be better because they are the
latest technology. The Hard Drive recording technology is more expensive
than the mature DV Tape recording technology. To keep the Hard Drive cam
price down they often use the optical technology from the cheaper end of
their DV camcorder range.

Also you may find your forced to use high compression to fit all you want to
record on the Hard Drive. With DV you just swap tape and continue recording
in high quality.

The upside is that Audio Performance should be better. The hard drives are
similar to those in ipods, and incredible quiet. You shouldn't have to
complain about "mechanical noise", a problem for most DV camcorders.


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Old December 26th 06, 12:27 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Laurence Payne
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Default miniDV or HardDisk

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 13:03:42 +0100, "Brink" wrote:

We are looking for a new camcorder to replace our old Panasonic VHS-C.
But we find it difficult to decide if we schould choose a mini DV og
HardDisk type.
Is there a big difference in the quality ? , and is the 3CCD camcorders that
much better ?
Another issue is the zoom, how much is suitable, because the cheaper
camcorders has a lot more.
Does anybody have any experience with som of theese camcorders ?
Sony Handycam HDR-SR1
Sony Handycam DCR SR90
Panasonic PV-GS180/280
Panasonic e.cam NV GS500


3CCD is better. Hard-disk (or writable DVD) is, at present, generally
worse.
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Old December 26th 06, 04:37 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Tony Morgan
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Default miniDV or HardDisk

In message , John Russell
writes

"Brink" wrote in message
...
We are looking for a new camcorder to replace our old Panasonic VHS-C.
But we find it difficult to decide if we schould choose a mini DV og
HardDisk type.
Is there a big difference in the quality ? , and is the 3CCD camcorders
that much better ?
Another issue is the zoom, how much is suitable, because the cheaper
camcorders has a lot more.
Does anybody have any experience with som of theese camcorders ?
Sony Handycam HDR-SR1
Sony Handycam DCR SR90
Panasonic PV-GS180/280
Panasonic e.cam NV GS500

Regards,
Brink


Don't assume that as Hard Disk recorders must be better because they are the
latest technology. The Hard Drive recording technology is more expensive
than the mature DV Tape recording technology. To keep the Hard Drive cam
price down they often use the optical technology from the cheaper end of
their DV camcorder range.

Also you may find your forced to use high compression to fit all you want to
record on the Hard Drive. With DV you just swap tape and continue recording
in high quality.

The upside is that Audio Performance should be better. The hard drives are
similar to those in ipods, and incredible quiet. You shouldn't have to
complain about "mechanical noise", a problem for most DV camcorders.

The other thing that I like to remind people about is the battery
dimension.

The recording time from the standard supplied battery closely
approximates to the recording time of a MiniDV tape (in SP mode).

So with a hard-disk camcorder, you're going to have to change your
battery every hour - even though your hard disk may provide (say) 30
hours of recording time.

Add this to the higher cost and the lower quality, then going for a
hard-disk camcorder is - for me at least - a no brainer :-)

Another thing worth considering is that some video editing software
doesn't support capture of MPEG2 (and some does support it - but not
well).
--
Tony Morgan
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Old December 26th 06, 06:28 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Laurence Payne
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Default miniDV or HardDisk

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 17:37:43 +0000, Tony Morgan
wrote:

The recording time from the standard supplied battery closely
approximates to the recording time of a MiniDV tape (in SP mode).

So with a hard-disk camcorder, you're going to have to change your
battery every hour - even though your hard disk may provide (say) 30
hours of recording time.


Er....so what? Either way you change battery every hour. You also
change tape. You don't change hard disk. Surely that's a (minor)
point AGAINST tape?
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Old December 26th 06, 09:42 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Tony Morgan
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Default miniDV or HardDisk

In message , Laurence Payne
writes
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 17:37:43 +0000, Tony Morgan
wrote:

The recording time from the standard supplied battery closely
approximates to the recording time of a MiniDV tape (in SP mode).

So with a hard-disk camcorder, you're going to have to change your
battery every hour - even though your hard disk may provide (say) 30
hours of recording time.


Er....so what? Either way you change battery every hour. You also
change tape. You don't change hard disk. Surely that's a (minor)
point AGAINST tape?


Think about it - or are you trolling yet again?
--
Tony Morgan
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Old December 26th 06, 11:42 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Laurence Payne
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Default miniDV or HardDisk

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:42:07 +0000, Tony Morgan
wrote:

The recording time from the standard supplied battery closely
approximates to the recording time of a MiniDV tape (in SP mode).

So with a hard-disk camcorder, you're going to have to change your
battery every hour - even though your hard disk may provide (say) 30
hours of recording time.


Er....so what? Either way you change battery every hour. You also
change tape. You don't change hard disk. Surely that's a (minor)
point AGAINST tape?


Think about it - or are you trolling yet again?
--


I'm thinking. Are you assuming every session starts at 0.00 on a
blank tape, and with a newly-charged battery?
 




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