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| Would go from a Canon MV900 camcorder into a Lite-On LVW5006 DVD Recorder ? Is it 6 pin to 4 pin? and is it the same as the one for the computer? Thanks |
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| Would go from a Canon MV900 camcorder into a Lite-On LVW5006 DVD Recorder ? Is it 6 pin to 4 pin? and is it the same as the one for the computer? From the limited amount I've been able to find, it would be 4pin to 4pin, based on the recorder's specification showing the front-panel IEEE1394 to be a "mini port". The camera will certainly be 4pin. You need to look at your camera and your recorder and decide for youself. If the DVD recorder's firewire port is the bigger one, then it's 6pin. If it looks just the same as the one on the camera, then it's 4pin. |
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| "G Hardy" wrote in message ... Would go from a Canon MV900 camcorder into a Lite-On LVW5006 DVD Recorder ? Is it 6 pin to 4 pin? and is it the same as the one for the computer? From the limited amount I've been able to find, it would be 4pin to 4pin, based on the recorder's specification showing the front-panel IEEE1394 to be a "mini port". The camera will certainly be 4pin. You need to look at your camera and your recorder and decide for youself. If the DVD recorder's firewire port is the bigger one, then it's 6pin. If it looks just the same as the one on the camera, then it's 4pin. Ok thanks for your help. I`ll take a look at it. |
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| Would go from a Canon MV900 camcorder into a Lite-On LVW5006 DVD Recorder Is it 6 pin to 4 pin? and is it the same as the one for the computer? From the limited amount I've been able to find, it would be 4pin to 4pin, based on the recorder's specification showing the front-panel IEEE1394 to be a "mini port". The camera will certainly be 4pin. You need to look at your camera and your recorder and decide for youself. If the DVD recorder's firewire port is the bigger one, then it's 6pin. If it looks just the same as the one on the camera, then it's 4pin. Just downloaded the manual, and yes - it's 4pin to 4pin. |
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| On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 17:02:12 -0000, "Nick Le Lievre" wrote: Would go from a Canon MV900 camcorder into a Lite-On LVW5006 DVD Recorder ? Is it 6 pin to 4 pin? and is it the same as the one for the computer? The picture of the Lite-On appears to show a 4-pin. The camera will certainly be a 4-pin. I assume you don't yet own the equipment? Else you'd just look :-) |
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| "Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message ... On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 17:02:12 -0000, "Nick Le Lievre" wrote: Would go from a Canon MV900 camcorder into a Lite-On LVW5006 DVD Recorder ? Is it 6 pin to 4 pin? and is it the same as the one for the computer? The picture of the Lite-On appears to show a 4-pin. The camera will certainly be a 4-pin. I assume you don't yet own the equipment? Else you'd just look :-) I have the Lite-On at home but I`m not there this weekend so I can't look... the MV900 is in the post. |
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| Laurence Payne wrote: On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 17:02:12 -0000, "Nick Le Lievre" wrote: Would go from a Canon MV900 camcorder into a Lite-On LVW5006 DVD Recorder ? Is it 6 pin to 4 pin? and is it the same as the one for the computer? The picture of the Lite-On appears to show a 4-pin. The camera will certainly be a 4-pin. I assume you don't yet own the equipment? Else you'd just look :-) Please would someone point me to a FAQ? I have both copied DV to VHS and edited video on my PC using Pinnacle and now Premiere Elements and saved back to tape and made DVDs. All this is fairly straightforward. What happens when you connect a DV camcorder to a stand alone DVD recorder? What does the DVD recorder do to the data to make a DVD. Does it take ages? and what quality is it? Somewhere there must be an description of the process, codecs etc. Thanks folks Margaret |
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| I have both copied DV to VHS and edited video on my PC using Pinnacle and now Premiere Elements and saved back to tape and made DVDs. All this is fairly straightforward. What happens when you connect a DV camcorder to a stand alone DVD recorder? What does the DVD recorder do to the data to make a DVD. Does it take ages? and what quality is it? Somewhere there must be an description of the process, codecs etc. If anything, the second paragraph is even more straightforward than the first. DV transfer* is a strictly real-time process, like the VHS tapes. The DVD recorder in question can control the camera when connected via firewire, so you can cue the tape to the point you want before you start recording. The recorder will have the necessary decoder built-in to convert this DV data to a picture. The built-in encoder will convert that picture to MPEG. The same will happen with the audio, which will be converted from DV to AC3, MPA or PCM. The only thing that really changes is the data rate. This has a direct relationship with the amount of time you can get on a single disc. Dropping the data rate means that it takes less bytes for a given duration, meaning you get more duration on the disc. It's possible even to quarter (roughly) the size of the picture to 352x288 just so you can get the data rate down even further. For 6 hours to fit on a single-layer DVD, the video needs to be encoded at the sort of quality you get on a VCD. * A firewire transfer, unlike an analogue capture (which is still an available option with this camera and recorder) is just a data stream being transmitted. It is the recorder that converts this stream to picture, whereas if you use the composite or S-video (the outputs you'd use to go direct from camera to TV) the camera does the conversion from DV data a picture, this is sent down the analogue wire, and the recorder encodes the ready-made picture. |
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| G Hardy wrote: The [DVD] recorder will have the necessary decoder built-in to convert this DV data to a picture. The built-in encoder will convert that picture to MPEG. The same will happen with the audio, which will be converted from DV to AC3, MPA or PCM. Hmm, isn't DV audio uncompressed PCM data [1] to begin with? (Of course, if you use the 4-channel 12-bit 32 kHz option instead of the 2-channel 16-bit 48 kHz mode, the DVD recorder needs to downmix the four channels and umpsample the data to 48 kHz.) _____ [1] http://www.adamwilt.com/DV-tech.html http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2004- August/037646.html http://www.slb.org/beepfix.html -- znark |
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