Is there any product which can split a file I captured into Adobe Premiere
Pro 1.5?

I don't care if I lose all audio as its in French.

(Just trying to avoid a 2 hour export process)

Beemer

In message , Beemer
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Is there any product which can split a file I captured into Adobe Premiere
Pro 1.5?

Captured or imported? If captured why don't you simply use your
camcorder to split? If imported - what format?

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Tony Morgan

"Tony Morgan" wrote in message
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| In message , Beemer
| writes
| Is there any product which can split a file I captured into Adobe
Premiere
| Pro 1.5?
|
| Captured or imported? If captured why don't you simply use your
| camcorder to split? If imported - what format?
|
| --
| Tony Morgan

Tony,

VHS captures using my Miglia Director's Cut hardware Scart to IEE1394. Avi
files made by Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 and rendered.

The tapes overun because I capture when I'm not using the computer so fewer
dropped frames. Unfortunately this can result in a few extra hours of blank
data and the swollen file size maybe 40 GB is a problem. If I captured
when I'm using the computer even on my AMD64 +4000, 2G memory, 250G disk I
get dropped frames, I guess because I'm constantly opening/closing several
high-end software applications.

I know the score re dedicated hardware but I'm not in a position to spend
more at this time.

Beemer

In message , Beemer
writes

"Tony Morgan" wrote in message
...
| In message , Beemer
| writes
| Is there any product which can split a file I captured into Adobe
Premiere
| Pro 1.5?
|
| Captured or imported? If captured why don't you simply use your
| camcorder to split? If imported - what format?
|
| --
| Tony Morgan

Tony,

Beemer, you're still not telling us what format.

VHS captures using my Miglia Director's Cut hardware Scart to IEE1394.

Neither SCART nor IEE1394 are video formats.

Avi
files

AVI is not a video format in itself. (Again) I'm guessing that these are
DV AVIs?

made by Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 and rendered.

Rendered to what format? MPEG-1? MPEG-2? WMF? MPEG-4 (DivX)? AFAIK there
is no application that will split more than one format. Hence my
question "what format?"

The tapes overun because I capture when I'm not using the computer so fewer
dropped frames. Unfortunately this can result in a few extra hours of blank
data and the swollen file size maybe 40 GB is a problem. If I captured
when I'm using the computer even on my AMD64 +4000, 2G memory, 250G disk I
get dropped frames, I guess because I'm constantly opening/closing several
high-end software applications.

Though I haven't worked out just at what stage you want to split (which
was also what prompted my questions), I'd suggest that you split within
Premiere. Doing it that way is non-destructive (to the original), and if
you render to the same format as the input format, it can be done quite
quickly since there is no "rendering" involved.

If however you're looking to output to any of the usual formats, then
you won't be spending more time (machine-time or man-hours) than you
must currently expending.

I know the score re dedicated hardware but I'm not in a position to spend
more at this time.

AFAICS there's no need for any hardware (other than what you already
have).

Perhaps this all sounds a bit negative, but to be positive I'd suggest
that you import into Premiere overnight, then split the sections off
that you want, For the two halves, move one half onto one layer (1), the
other onto another layer (2), and delete the blank video (that you
mention). Hide layer 2 and render layer 1, then hide layer 1 and render
layer 2. The Each of the two render operations can be done overnight,
so that your normal application activities have no impact.


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Tony Morgan

"Tony Morgan" wrote in message
...
| In message , Beemer
| writes
|
| "Tony Morgan" wrote in message
| ...
| | In message , Beemer
| | writes
| | Is there any product which can split a file I captured into Adobe
| Premiere
| | Pro 1.5?
| |
| | Captured or imported? If captured why don't you simply use your
| | camcorder to split? If imported - what format?
| |
| | --
| | Tony Morgan
|
| Tony,
|
| Beemer, you're still not telling us what format.
|
| VHS captures using my Miglia Director's Cut hardware Scart to IEE1394.
|
| Neither SCART nor IEE1394 are video formats.
|
| Avi
| files
|
| AVI is not a video format in itself. (Again) I'm guessing that these are
| DV AVIs?
|
| made by Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 and rendered.
|
| Rendered to what format? MPEG-1? MPEG-2? WMF? MPEG-4 (DivX)? AFAIK there
| is no application that will split more than one format. Hence my
| question "what format?"
|
| The tapes overun because I capture when I'm not using the computer so
fewer
| dropped frames. Unfortunately this can result in a few extra hours of
blank
| data and the swollen file size maybe 40 GB is a problem. If I captured
| when I'm using the computer even on my AMD64 +4000, 2G memory, 250G disk
I
| get dropped frames, I guess because I'm constantly opening/closing
several
| high-end software applications.
|
| Though I haven't worked out just at what stage you want to split (which
| was also what prompted my questions), I'd suggest that you split within
| Premiere. Doing it that way is non-destructive (to the original), and if
| you render to the same format as the input format, it can be done quite
| quickly since there is no "rendering" involved.
|
| If however you're looking to output to any of the usual formats, then
| you won't be spending more time (machine-time or man-hours) than you
| must currently expending.
|
| I know the score re dedicated hardware but I'm not in a position to spend
| more at this time.
|
| AFAICS there's no need for any hardware (other than what you already
| have).
|
| Perhaps this all sounds a bit negative, but to be positive I'd suggest
| that you import into Premiere overnight, then split the sections off
| that you want, For the two halves, move one half onto one layer (1), the
| other onto another layer (2), and delete the blank video (that you
| mention). Hide layer 2 and render layer 1, then hide layer 1 and render
| layer 2. The Each of the two render operations can be done overnight,
| so that your normal application activities have no impact.
|
|
| --
| Tony Morgan

Tony,

The Miglia Director's Cut hardware is an analog/DV convertor. I'm putting
my vhs videos on DVD MPEG2. For no menus I can use PP export to DVD.

All I wanted to do was cut the significant blank part of the files after the
vhs tape ended so that I could keep several smaller files on my computer
before export/burn. Otherwise I have to work on each in sequence. As you
will have guessed I'm a video newbie.

Beemer

"Beemer" wrote in message
k...
As you will have guessed I'm a video newbie.

Oh he guessed it alright, about a nanosecond before he started looking down
his nose and patronising you like a small child.

But that's typical Tony Morgan for you I'm afraid, he tries to "help" but it
always comes with a huge price-tag attached and he just CAN'T resist being
as condescending as possible to people who aren't soulless pathetic
camcorder geeks like him!

Sadly you stumbled across one of Usenet's most prolific arseholes, try not
to take it personally as he is like this with mankind in general and was
born without any interpersonal communication skills whatsoever. I'm sure
you won't be back just like so many newcomers who stumble in here looking
for a bit of friendly advice and receive a dose of Morgan's bile for their
trouble.

I'm sure I will now receive *my* dose of said bile as well, Tony is nothing
if not predictable! :-)

"Beemer" wrote in message
news
Is there any product which can split a file I captured into Adobe Premiere
Pro 1.5?

I don't care if I lose all audio as its in French.

(Just trying to avoid a 2 hour export process)

Export from where?

My understanding is that Premiere needs DV type 2 files (someone correct me
if I'm wrong - I don't use it).

If your Miglia hardware produces DV type 1 - which is extremely likely -
then this may be an issue.

When you say "split" do you mean "split off the audio" or "split off the
excess from the end"?

Either way - I think you're going to struggle with the two hour thing.

A DV stream (of either type) has an audio component even if it's muted, so
there's no point doing that process at all. If you want to strip off the
audio, just put the captured audio onto the Premiere timeline and mute the
associated audio track. Use the other audio tracks to add new audio before
outputting the DV.

If you want to split the dross from the end of the file, there's no way to
do it (that I'm aware of) without reading the source DV AVI and writing out
the bit you want to keep. If you've captured 40GB and want to keep a couple
of hours (26GB) you'll need 66GB of free disc space.

You can speed up the process by adding a second internal hard drive, which
receives the second AVI, as long as it's on a different IDE channel. (If
you're on SATA, someone else will have to let you know a) if this technique
works and b) how to set it up.) I use Mediastudio Pro and typically get
two-thirds realtime smartrenders* to the same drive. That is to say if I'm
outputting a one hour DV AVI from DV AVI source files on the same drive, it
takes about 40 minutes. If the source files are on my secondary master** IDE
drive (D and I save the output to the primary slave** drive that one-hour
file takes seven minutes to save.

* Smartrender is the MSP terminology for duplicating the audio/video stream
direct from the source, if it's not changed by filters or whatever, meaning
there's no change in quality.
** I understand that it's not politically correct to call them "master" and
"slave" any more, but in this group, who cares? Political correctness was
laughed out of here a long time ago, as you can see from Fergie's post.

In message , Beemer
writes
Snipped....

The Miglia Director's Cut hardware is an analog/DV convertor. I'm putting
my vhs videos on DVD MPEG2. For no menus I can use PP export to DVD.

All I wanted to do was cut the significant blank part of the files after the
vhs tape ended so that I could keep several smaller files on my computer
before export/burn. Otherwise I have to work on each in sequence. As you
will have guessed I'm a video newbie.

Now we're cooking :-)

As you have now identified your format as DVD MPEG-2, you should be able
to use DVTool from he
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...ls/dv-tool.cfm

There's further options using other software he
http://www.digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/...mercials.htm#v
ideoredo

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Tony Morgan

Beemer wrote:
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As you will have guessed I'm a video newbie.

Bloody hell! As another video newbie I couldn't justify Permiere Pro so went
with Elements. Unless of course...

In message , fergie's
left nip writes

"Beemer" wrote in message
. uk...
As you will have guessed I'm a video newbie.

Snipped....

I'm sure I will now receive *my* dose of said bile as well, Tony is nothing
if not predictable! :-)

I'm afraid Beemer, you have here with Fergie, encountered one of those
who NEVER contributes anything remotely constructive, but fall into the
"troll" category by stirring up the **** for those who ARE prepared to
offer constructive advice.

I'm sure that by now you (as well as others except trolls like Fergie)
will appreciate that constructive advice about a particular problem or
issue can't be given UNTIL the problem or issue has been properly
identified - which in this case is the video format in question. Each of
the many video formats will usually require a different item of software
to split as you require.

As for Fergie - why don't you find another newsgroup where your failure
to contribute constructive advice would be more appropriate.

God - I do hate idiots like you who contribute NOTHING but angst.
These people are often identified by a spoof anonymous e-mail address
like Fergie uses.
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Tony Morgan