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Splitting captured DV file



 
 
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Old August 25th 06, 04:14 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Beemer
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Default Splitting captured DV file

Tony,

Thanks, I have downloaded so will try out later.

Beemer

"Tony Morgan" wrote in message
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| In message , Beemer
| writes
| Snipped....
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| The Miglia Director's Cut hardware is an analog/DV convertor. I'm
putting
| my vhs videos on DVD MPEG2. For no menus I can use PP export to DVD.
|
| All I wanted to do was cut the significant blank part of the files after
the
| vhs tape ended so that I could keep several smaller files on my computer
| before export/burn. Otherwise I have to work on each in sequence. As
you
| will have guessed I'm a video newbie.
|
| Now we're cooking :-)
|
| As you have now identified your format as DVD MPEG-2, you should be able
| to use DVTool from he
| http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...ls/dv-tool.cfm
|
| There's further options using other software he
| http://www.digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/...mercials.htm#v
| ideoredo
|
| --
| Tony Morgan


  #12  
Old August 25th 06, 04:19 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Beemer
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Default Splitting captured DV file


"G Hardy" wrote in message
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| "Beemer" wrote in message
| news | Is there any product which can split a file I captured into Adobe
Premiere
| Pro 1.5?
|
| I don't care if I lose all audio as its in French.
|
| (Just trying to avoid a 2 hour export process)
|
| Export from where?
|
| My understanding is that Premiere needs DV type 2 files (someone correct
me
| if I'm wrong - I don't use it).
|
| If your Miglia hardware produces DV type 1 - which is extremely likely -
| then this may be an issue.
|
| When you say "split" do you mean "split off the audio" or "split off the
| excess from the end"?
|
| Either way - I think you're going to struggle with the two hour thing.
|
| A DV stream (of either type) has an audio component even if it's muted, so
| there's no point doing that process at all. If you want to strip off the
| audio, just put the captured audio onto the Premiere timeline and mute the
| associated audio track. Use the other audio tracks to add new audio before
| outputting the DV.
|
| If you want to split the dross from the end of the file, there's no way to
| do it (that I'm aware of) without reading the source DV AVI and writing
out
| the bit you want to keep. If you've captured 40GB and want to keep a
couple
| of hours (26GB) you'll need 66GB of free disc space.
|
| You can speed up the process by adding a second internal hard drive, which
| receives the second AVI, as long as it's on a different IDE channel. (If
| you're on SATA, someone else will have to let you know a) if this
technique
| works and b) how to set it up.) I use Mediastudio Pro and typically get
| two-thirds realtime smartrenders* to the same drive. That is to say if I'm
| outputting a one hour DV AVI from DV AVI source files on the same drive,
it
| takes about 40 minutes. If the source files are on my secondary master**
IDE
| drive (D and I save the output to the primary slave** drive that
one-hour
| file takes seven minutes to save.
|
| * Smartrender is the MSP terminology for duplicating the audio/video
stream
| direct from the source, if it's not changed by filters or whatever,
meaning
| there's no change in quality.
| ** I understand that it's not politically correct to call them "master"
and
| "slave" any more, but in this group, who cares? Political correctness was
| laughed out of here a long time ago, as you can see from Fergie's post.
|
|
Loads of interesting info for me to digest in your reply. I will digest
shortly.

Yes its chopping of the end and I do have two 250GB SATA

Beemer


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Old August 25th 06, 08:41 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
G Hardy
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Default Splitting captured DV file

"Beemer" wrote in message
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|
Loads of interesting info for me to digest in your reply. I will digest
shortly.

Yes its chopping of the end and I do have two 250GB SATA


OK - if you're going to DVD format direct from the Premiere timeline, you
can write it to the same drive as the source files because you'll be putting
down much less data. The encode time for DVD will swamp the extra caused by
writing this small amount to MPEG-2 format.

If you're going to use an external encoder on an intermediate DV AVI (which
is what I do) using two separate drives for source and edit will make the
process quicker. You then encode the DVD-compliant MPEG to the same drive as
your source files for the same reason. It might not make a difference for
SATA (as I don't know the technology) but with IDE drives, using separate
IDE channels means that you're not getting (much) data travelling BOTH ways
on the same cable.


  #14  
Old August 26th 06, 11:43 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Beemer
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Default Splitting captured DV file


"G Hardy" wrote in message
...
| "Beemer" wrote in message
| ...
|
||
| Loads of interesting info for me to digest in your reply. I will digest
| shortly.
|
| Yes its chopping of the end and I do have two 250GB SATA
|
| OK - if you're going to DVD format direct from the Premiere timeline, you
| can write it to the same drive as the source files because you'll be
putting
| down much less data. The encode time for DVD will swamp the extra caused
by
| writing this small amount to MPEG-2 format.
|
| If you're going to use an external encoder on an intermediate DV AVI
(which
| is what I do) using two separate drives for source and edit will make the
| process quicker. You then encode the DVD-compliant MPEG to the same drive
as
| your source files for the same reason. It might not make a difference for
| SATA (as I don't know the technology) but with IDE drives, using separate
| IDE channels means that you're not getting (much) data travelling BOTH
ways
| on the same cable.
|
|
When you said external encoder do you mean e.g. Canopus Pro or did you mean
an external hardware encoder?

Beemer


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Old August 26th 06, 02:03 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
G Hardy
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Default Splitting captured DV file

"Beemer" wrote in message
news
When you said external encoder do you mean e.g. Canopus Pro or did you

mean
an external hardware encoder?


Either.

I actually meant TMPGenc or (my favourite) CinemaCraft basic.



 




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