"Tim Streater" wrote in message
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Surely for anything even semi-serious DV has to be the way to go?

No, the pro world is already gearing up for tape-less acquisition.
Full sized cameras will be using full sized HDD's whilst the smaller
camcorders will be using mini HDD's.

"Tony Morgan" wrote in message
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In message , G Hardy
writes
I heard it had happened because beta was top-loading whereas VHS
was front
loading.

I'm old enough to remember that for the first few years, every VHS
was
top-loading :-)

VHS units could go neatly in a cabinet under the telly whereas
beta
had to go on top of the TV, or on a shelf with room on top to
load.

And that's a good thing IMHO. I cannot think of anything so
user-unfriendly as to be forced to crouch down to (or near) floor
level
to change a VHS cassette, DVD disk or CD disk). It's something I've
been
whinging about for many years. How much more user-friendly would it
be
to have the units that you had to change tapes/disks above the TV?
The
problem seems to stem from the undue influence that marketing
droids
have on designers.

Were you place your VTR (or what ever) is down to you, not the
designer!


It seems a welcome spin-off from the wider use of LCD and plasma
screen
TVs that users are increasingly mounting recorders and players on a
wall-mounted shelf at a more ergonomic height.


It could be said that many more people are now so brain washed about
the importance of the 'idiot box' [1] that they are allowing it to
take over more and more of the rooms 'real estate', were once hung a
picture or painting now hangs the TV...

[1] as someone, whose name I can't remember, once called the
television set.

In message ews.net,
Jerry writes
Were you place your VTR (or what ever) is down to you, not the
designer!

Perhaps you can point me to a TV/video stand or mounting (over the last
20 years) that puts the devices *other* than between four and eighteen
inches above the floor.

Think about it Jerry. If designers *always* put the video/DVD recorder
shelves below the TV, then surely even you can see that the "choice" is
not that with Joe Public - but with the designers.

--
Tony Morgan

Surely for anything even semi-serious DV has to be the way to go?

No, the pro world is already gearing up for tape-less acquisition.
Full sized cameras will be using full sized HDD's whilst the smaller
camcorders will be using mini HDD's.

For transfer onto what, may I ask? If you think I'm entrusting my video
stuff to DVD-R you've got rocks in your head.

In article ,
Tony Morgan wrote:

In message ews.net,
Jerry writes
Were you place your VTR (or what ever) is down to you, not the
designer!

Perhaps you can point me to a TV/video stand or mounting (over the last
20 years) that puts the devices *other* than between four and eighteen
inches above the floor.

Think about it Jerry. If designers *always* put the video/DVD recorder
shelves below the TV, then surely even you can see that the "choice" is
not that with Joe Public - but with the designers.

Nothing to stop you organising your own.

-- tim

"Tony Morgan" wrote in message
...
In message
ews.net,
Jerry writes
Were you place your VTR (or what ever) is down to you, not the
designer!

Perhaps you can point me to a TV/video stand or mounting (over the
last
20 years) that puts the devices *other* than between four and
eighteen
inches above the floor.

Think about it Jerry. If designers *always* put the video/DVD
recorder
shelves below the TV, then surely even you can see that the
"choice" is
not that with Joe Public - but with the designers.


I think the sheep pens are that way ===

Think about it...

"P" wrote in message
...
Surely for anything even semi-serious DV has to be the way to
go?

No, the pro world is already gearing up for tape-less
acquisition.
Full sized cameras will be using full sized HDD's whilst the
smaller
camcorders will be using mini HDD's.

For transfer onto what, may I ask? If you think I'm entrusting my
video
stuff to DVD-R you've got rocks in your head.


Transferred to other HDD's! Home media (RAID) servers are not far
away, many people are already building their own. As I said,
tape-less is not far away - anyone for a 8GB solid state USB
stick?...

Only copies will ever be entrusted to volatile mediums, and that
inclueds tape!

"P" wrote in message ...
Surely for anything even semi-serious DV has to be the way to go?

No, the pro world is already gearing up for tape-less acquisition.
Full sized cameras will be using full sized HDD's whilst the smaller
camcorders will be using mini HDD's.

For transfer onto what, may I ask? If you think I'm entrusting my video
stuff to DVD-R you've got rocks in your head.


It's just data. You transfer it to PC are archive it any way you would
archive large volume data. Clearly for "source" video, DVD of any kind is
inconvenient as a backup/archive. So I presume we would be looking at High
Density DVD of some kind.