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| I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with digital capture using DV format from a DV camcorder. So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home movies taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle Digital Video Creator 90. This is also a Pinnacle product consisting of an analog capture module connected to the computer via USB2, together with the necessary software update for Studio9. After installing the software, the DVC90 was plugged in to a USB2 port and was recognised correctly. So far so good! I have taken all the precautions mentioned in the manual e.g. capture to a separate IDE hard drive, ensure that the drive has adequate space and is defragged, shut down all background computer processes etc etc. The problems appear when Studio9 is set to 'capture source DVC90', and are as follows: 1. After a period, which varies from a few seconds up to a minute, the computer re-starts and then reports that it has recovered from a 'serious error'. This happens even if no video is being captured 2. If video is captured there are numerous dropped frames and the resultant playback is very jerky. At one stage I investigated the 'serious error' and it appeared to be a driver problem. I therefore have done the following: 1. Uninstalled and re-installed the DVC90 drivers 2. Searched the web (unsuccessfully) for updated drivers 3. Completely uninstalled and re-installed Studio9 I have now run out of ideas! Has anyone out there used a DVC90 successfully? Any other ideas? All responses will be read with keen interest. TIA Pentium 4, 1.6GHz Windows XP (Home) SP2 fully updated Memory 1Gb Hard disk space - plenty, separate drive for video |
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| On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 08:50:55 GMT, "Malcolm H" wrote: I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with digital capture using DV format from a DV camcorder. So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home movies taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle Digital Video Creator 90. This is also a Pinnacle product consisting of an analog capture module connected to the computer via USB2, together with the necessary software update for Studio9. After installing the software, the DVC90 was plugged in to a USB2 port and was recognised correctly. So far so good! I have taken all the precautions mentioned in the manual e.g. capture to a separate IDE hard drive, ensure that the drive has adequate space and is defragged, shut down all background computer processes etc etc. The problems appear when Studio9 is set to 'capture source DVC90', and are as follows: 1. After a period, which varies from a few seconds up to a minute, the computer re-starts and then reports that it has recovered from a 'serious error'. This happens even if no video is being captured 2. If video is captured there are numerous dropped frames and the resultant playback is very jerky. At one stage I investigated the 'serious error' and it appeared to be a driver problem. I therefore have done the following: 1. Uninstalled and re-installed the DVC90 drivers 2. Searched the web (unsuccessfully) for updated drivers 3. Completely uninstalled and re-installed Studio9 I have now run out of ideas! Has anyone out there used a DVC90 successfully? Any other ideas? All responses will be read with keen interest. TIA Pentium 4, 1.6GHz Windows XP (Home) SP2 fully updated Memory 1Gb Hard disk space - plenty, separate drive for video Dazzle were bought by Pinnacle. Avid now owns Pinnacle. 1. check your usb hub settings in device manager and switch off 'power management' which can send a usb unit to sleep if not being used , and therefore cause problems. 2. update drivers for usb2 which can be 'alterred' by sp2 upgrade. 3. what dv camera do you have ? if it has analogue in , you could just passthru the 8mm via dv camera to pc and forget about the dvc unit. |
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| "Malcolm H" wrote in message ... I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with digital capture using DV format from a DV camcorder. So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home movies taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle Digital Video Creator 90. This is also a Pinnacle product consisting of an analog capture module connected to the computer via USB2, together with the necessary software update for Studio9. After installing the software, the DVC90 was plugged in to a USB2 port and was recognised correctly. So far so good! I have taken all the precautions mentioned in the manual e.g. capture to a separate IDE hard drive, ensure that the drive has adequate space and is defragged, shut down all background computer processes etc etc. The problems appear when Studio9 is set to 'capture source DVC90', and are as follows: 1. After a period, which varies from a few seconds up to a minute, the computer re-starts and then reports that it has recovered from a 'serious error'. This happens even if no video is being captured 2. If video is captured there are numerous dropped frames and the resultant playback is very jerky. At one stage I investigated the 'serious error' and it appeared to be a driver problem. I therefore have done the following: 1. Uninstalled and re-installed the DVC90 drivers 2. Searched the web (unsuccessfully) for updated drivers 3. Completely uninstalled and re-installed Studio9 I have now run out of ideas! Has anyone out there used a DVC90 successfully? Any other ideas? All responses will be read with keen interest. TIA Pentium 4, 1.6GHz Windows XP (Home) SP2 fully updated Memory 1Gb Hard disk space - plenty, separate drive for video I am using Pinnacle Studio 9 with their av/dv capture pci card on a amd 2200+. This combination works very well for me, so I can tell you the problems are likely in these areas: 1. I do not like usb capture devices. Some computers with some devices do not properly support usb2, and the earlier versions are just too slow for real time capture. Hence the dropped frames, jerky video, audio out of sync., etc.Make sure you can achieve a high enough transfer rate. 2. I do not know the device in question, so I can't say how to change your capture parameters. My experience is that vhs/8mm capture needs only 352x480 or 352x240 resolution at lower bit rates. Too high a bit rate/resolution combination puts too much stress on the computer or device 3. A lot depends on where the compression is done. Some devices do it in hardware, but Pinnacle traditionally does it in software, which is less desireable, and less expensive, but CAN give very good results. Compression is hardware means less data to transfer through to the software, which means better results for slower computers check www.videohelp.com and www.digitalfaq.com I am still learning this stuff, but I will be pleased to offer any suggestions. Stuart |
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| "Malcolm H" wrote in message ... I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with digital capture using DV format from a DV camcorder. So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home movies taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle Digital Video Creator 90. This is a terrible device. Dazzle went out of business and was bought by Pinnacle. All Dazzle hardware and software are old as are the drivers, hence many incompatability problems arise. You might try the Pinnacle MovieBox. I prever the Hauppauge 250 or the ADS Instant DVD USB 2. I find no dropped frames, and capture at 8 megabits/sec perfectly with this device on a Pentium 4 2.6 gig. (I have nine other USB devices attached). |
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| "Alpha" wrote in message ... "Malcolm H" wrote in message ... I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with digital capture using DV format from a DV camcorder. So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home movies taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle Digital Video Creator 90. This is a terrible device. Dazzle went out of business and was bought by Pinnacle. All Dazzle hardware and software are old as are the drivers, hence many incompatability problems arise. You might try the Pinnacle MovieBox. I prever the Hauppauge 250 or the ADS Instant DVD USB 2. I find no dropped frames, and capture at 8 megabits/sec perfectly with this device on a Pentium 4 2.6 gig. (I have nine other USB devices attached). Forget movie boxes. Better pci card. Like the previous poster, I have Pinncacle AV/DV delux with breakout box. Works well. Eddie |
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| "Eddie" wrote in message ... "Alpha" wrote in message ... "Malcolm H" wrote in message ... I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with digital capture using DV format from a DV camcorder. So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home movies taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle Digital Video Creator 90. This is a terrible device. Dazzle went out of business and was bought by Pinnacle. All Dazzle hardware and software are old as are the drivers, hence many incompatability problems arise. You might try the Pinnacle MovieBox. I prever the Hauppauge 250 or the ADS Instant DVD USB 2. I find no dropped frames, and capture at 8 megabits/sec perfectly with this device on a Pentium 4 2.6 gig. (I have nine other USB devices attached). Forget movie boxes. Better pci card. Like the previous poster, I have Pinncacle AV/DV delux with breakout box. Works well. Eddie He already captures to .avi....he wants hardware to .mpg |
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| "Alpha" wrote in message ... "Eddie" wrote in message ... "Alpha" wrote in message ... "Malcolm H" wrote in message ... I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with digital capture using DV format from a DV camcorder. So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home movies taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle Digital Video Creator 90. This is a terrible device. Dazzle went out of business and was bought by Pinnacle. All Dazzle hardware and software are old as are the drivers, hence many incompatability problems arise. You might try the Pinnacle MovieBox. I prever the Hauppauge 250 or the ADS Instant DVD USB 2. I find no dropped frames, and capture at 8 megabits/sec perfectly with this device on a Pentium 4 2.6 gig. (I have nine other USB devices attached). Forget movie boxes. Better pci card. Like the previous poster, I have Pinncacle AV/DV delux with breakout box. Works well. Eddie He already captures to .avi....he wants hardware to .mpg Pinnacle studio will capture to several avi and mpeg formats - depends on what you want and how you set it up. It can then recode (if needed) to the appropriate parameters for the destination media after menus & titles are created. Stuart |
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| "Alpha" wrote in message ... "Eddie" wrote in message ... "Alpha" wrote in message ... "Malcolm H" wrote in message ... I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with digital capture using DV format from a DV camcorder. So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home movies taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle Digital Video Creator 90. This is a terrible device. Dazzle went out of business and was bought by Pinnacle. All Dazzle hardware and software are old as are the drivers, hence many incompatability problems arise. You might try the Pinnacle MovieBox. I prever the Hauppauge 250 or the ADS Instant DVD USB 2. I find no dropped frames, and capture at 8 megabits/sec perfectly with this device on a Pentium 4 2.6 gig. (I have nine other USB devices attached). Forget movie boxes. Better pci card. Like the previous poster, I have Pinncacle AV/DV delux with breakout box. Works well. Eddie He already captures to .avi....he wants hardware to .mpg Standard cheap capture devices don't do it,. Eddie |
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| "Eddie" wrote in message ... "Alpha" wrote in message ... "Eddie" wrote in message ... "Alpha" wrote in message ... "Malcolm H" wrote in message ... I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with digital capture using DV format from a DV camcorder. So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home movies taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle Digital Video Creator 90. This is a terrible device. Dazzle went out of business and was bought by Pinnacle. All Dazzle hardware and software are old as are the drivers, hence many incompatability problems arise. You might try the Pinnacle MovieBox. I prever the Hauppauge 250 or the ADS Instant DVD USB 2. I find no dropped frames, and capture at 8 megabits/sec perfectly with this device on a Pentium 4 2.6 gig. (I have nine other USB devices attached). Forget movie boxes. Better pci card. Like the previous poster, I have Pinncacle AV/DV delux with breakout box. Works well. Eddie He already captures to .avi....he wants hardware to .mpg Standard cheap capture devices don't do it,. Eddie My DC 10 has no problem I expect its a USB speed problem. Maybe the user is only getting USB1.1 |
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| "Stuart Miller" wrote in message news:e24Oe.80246$vj.62988@pd7tw1no... I am using Pinnacle Studio 9 with their av/dv capture pci card on a amd 2200+. This combination works very well for me, so I can tell you the problems are likely in these areas: 1. I do not like usb capture devices. Some computers with some devices do not properly support usb2, and the earlier versions are just too slow for real time capture. Hence the dropped frames, jerky video, audio out of sync., etc.Make sure you can achieve a high enough transfer rate. 2. I do not know the device in question, so I can't say how to change your capture parameters. My experience is that vhs/8mm capture needs only 352x480 or 352x240 resolution at lower bit rates. Too high a bit rate/resolution combination puts too much stress on the computer or device 3. A lot depends on where the compression is done. Some devices do it in hardware, but Pinnacle traditionally does it in software, which is less desireable, and less expensive, but CAN give very good results. Compression is hardware means less data to transfer through to the software, which means better results for slower computers check www.videohelp.com and www.digitalfaq.com I am still learning this stuff, but I will be pleased to offer any suggestions. I took the original Studio9 package and the Dazzle package back to PC World and swopped them for the Studio AV/DV package with PCI card included (got some change too!) Everything worked perfectly first time! Moral: don't even think about trying to use USB2 for analog video capture. Thank you all for your helpful responses. |
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