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Old August 21st 05, 09:50 AM posted to alt.video.dvd.tech,rec.video.dvd.tech,uk.rec.video.digital
Malcolm H
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Default Video capture woes - ideas please

I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with digital
capture using DV format from a DV camcorder.

So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home movies
taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle Digital
Video Creator 90. This is also a Pinnacle product consisting of an analog
capture module connected to the computer via USB2, together with the
necessary software update for Studio9.

After installing the software, the DVC90 was plugged in to a USB2 port and
was recognised correctly. So far so good!

I have taken all the precautions mentioned in the manual e.g. capture to a
separate IDE hard drive, ensure that the drive has adequate space and is
defragged, shut down all background computer processes etc etc.

The problems appear when Studio9 is set to 'capture source DVC90', and are
as follows:

1. After a period, which varies from a few seconds up to a minute, the
computer re-starts and then reports that it has recovered from a 'serious
error'. This happens even if no video is being captured
2. If video is captured there are numerous dropped frames and the resultant
playback is very jerky.

At one stage I investigated the 'serious error' and it appeared to be a
driver problem. I therefore have done the following:

1. Uninstalled and re-installed the DVC90 drivers
2. Searched the web (unsuccessfully) for updated drivers
3. Completely uninstalled and re-installed Studio9

I have now run out of ideas! Has anyone out there used a DVC90
successfully? Any other ideas?

All responses will be read with keen interest.

TIA

Pentium 4, 1.6GHz
Windows XP (Home) SP2 fully updated
Memory 1Gb
Hard disk space - plenty, separate drive for video





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Old August 21st 05, 02:25 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Gary MacKenzie
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Default Video capture woes - ideas please

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 08:50:55 GMT, "Malcolm H"
wrote:

I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with digital
capture using DV format from a DV camcorder.

So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home movies
taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle Digital
Video Creator 90. This is also a Pinnacle product consisting of an analog
capture module connected to the computer via USB2, together with the
necessary software update for Studio9.

After installing the software, the DVC90 was plugged in to a USB2 port and
was recognised correctly. So far so good!

I have taken all the precautions mentioned in the manual e.g. capture to a
separate IDE hard drive, ensure that the drive has adequate space and is
defragged, shut down all background computer processes etc etc.

The problems appear when Studio9 is set to 'capture source DVC90', and are
as follows:

1. After a period, which varies from a few seconds up to a minute, the
computer re-starts and then reports that it has recovered from a 'serious
error'. This happens even if no video is being captured
2. If video is captured there are numerous dropped frames and the resultant
playback is very jerky.

At one stage I investigated the 'serious error' and it appeared to be a
driver problem. I therefore have done the following:

1. Uninstalled and re-installed the DVC90 drivers
2. Searched the web (unsuccessfully) for updated drivers
3. Completely uninstalled and re-installed Studio9

I have now run out of ideas! Has anyone out there used a DVC90
successfully? Any other ideas?

All responses will be read with keen interest.

TIA

Pentium 4, 1.6GHz
Windows XP (Home) SP2 fully updated
Memory 1Gb
Hard disk space - plenty, separate drive for video





Dazzle were bought by Pinnacle.
Avid now owns Pinnacle.

1. check your usb hub settings in device manager and switch off 'power
management' which can send a usb unit to sleep if not being used , and
therefore cause problems.

2. update drivers for usb2 which can be 'alterred' by sp2 upgrade.

3. what dv camera do you have ?

if it has analogue in , you could just passthru the 8mm via dv camera
to pc and forget about the dvc unit.

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Old August 21st 05, 07:50 PM posted to alt.video.dvd.tech,rec.video.dvd.tech,uk.rec.video.digital
Stuart Miller
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Default Video capture woes - ideas please


"Malcolm H" wrote in message
...
I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with
digital capture using DV format from a DV camcorder.

So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home
movies taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle
Digital Video Creator 90. This is also a Pinnacle product consisting of an
analog capture module connected to the computer via USB2, together with
the necessary software update for Studio9.

After installing the software, the DVC90 was plugged in to a USB2 port and
was recognised correctly. So far so good!

I have taken all the precautions mentioned in the manual e.g. capture to a
separate IDE hard drive, ensure that the drive has adequate space and is
defragged, shut down all background computer processes etc etc.

The problems appear when Studio9 is set to 'capture source DVC90', and are
as follows:

1. After a period, which varies from a few seconds up to a minute, the
computer re-starts and then reports that it has recovered from a 'serious
error'. This happens even if no video is being captured
2. If video is captured there are numerous dropped frames and the
resultant playback is very jerky.

At one stage I investigated the 'serious error' and it appeared to be a
driver problem. I therefore have done the following:

1. Uninstalled and re-installed the DVC90 drivers
2. Searched the web (unsuccessfully) for updated drivers
3. Completely uninstalled and re-installed Studio9

I have now run out of ideas! Has anyone out there used a DVC90
successfully? Any other ideas?

All responses will be read with keen interest.

TIA

Pentium 4, 1.6GHz
Windows XP (Home) SP2 fully updated
Memory 1Gb
Hard disk space - plenty, separate drive for video




I am using Pinnacle Studio 9 with their av/dv capture pci card on a amd
2200+.
This combination works very well for me, so I can tell you the problems are
likely in these areas:
1. I do not like usb capture devices. Some computers with some devices do
not properly support usb2, and the earlier versions are just too slow for
real time capture. Hence the dropped frames, jerky video, audio out of
sync., etc.Make sure you can achieve a high enough transfer rate.
2. I do not know the device in question, so I can't say how to change your
capture parameters. My experience is that vhs/8mm capture needs only 352x480
or 352x240 resolution at lower bit rates. Too high a bit rate/resolution
combination puts too much stress on the computer or device
3. A lot depends on where the compression is done. Some devices do it in
hardware, but Pinnacle traditionally does it in software, which is less
desireable, and less expensive, but CAN give very good results. Compression
is hardware means less data to transfer through to the software, which means
better results for slower computers

check www.videohelp.com and www.digitalfaq.com

I am still learning this stuff, but I will be pleased to offer any
suggestions.


Stuart


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Old August 21st 05, 10:12 PM posted to alt.video.dvd.tech,rec.video.dvd.tech,uk.rec.video.digital
Alpha
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Default Video capture woes - ideas please


"Malcolm H" wrote in message
...
I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with
digital capture using DV format from a DV camcorder.

So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home
movies taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle
Digital Video Creator 90.


This is a terrible device. Dazzle went out of business and was bought by
Pinnacle. All Dazzle hardware and software are old as are the drivers,
hence many incompatability problems arise.

You might try the Pinnacle MovieBox.

I prever the Hauppauge 250 or the ADS Instant DVD USB 2. I find no dropped
frames, and capture at 8 megabits/sec perfectly with this device on a
Pentium 4 2.6 gig. (I have nine other USB devices attached).





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Old August 21st 05, 11:13 PM posted to alt.video.dvd.tech,rec.video.dvd.tech,uk.rec.video.digital
Eddie
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Default Video capture woes - ideas please


"Alpha" wrote in message
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"Malcolm H" wrote in message
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I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with
digital capture using DV format from a DV camcorder.

So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home
movies taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle
Digital Video Creator 90.


This is a terrible device. Dazzle went out of business and was bought by
Pinnacle. All Dazzle hardware and software are old as are the drivers,
hence many incompatability problems arise.

You might try the Pinnacle MovieBox.

I prever the Hauppauge 250 or the ADS Instant DVD USB 2. I find no
dropped frames, and capture at 8 megabits/sec perfectly with this device
on a Pentium 4 2.6 gig. (I have nine other USB devices attached).


Forget movie boxes. Better pci card. Like the previous poster, I have
Pinncacle AV/DV delux with breakout box. Works well.

Eddie


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Old August 22nd 05, 12:03 AM posted to alt.video.dvd.tech,rec.video.dvd.tech,uk.rec.video.digital
Alpha
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Default Video capture woes - ideas please


"Eddie" wrote in message
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"Alpha" wrote in message
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"Malcolm H" wrote in message
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I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with
digital capture using DV format from a DV camcorder.

So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home
movies taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle
Digital Video Creator 90.


This is a terrible device. Dazzle went out of business and was bought by
Pinnacle. All Dazzle hardware and software are old as are the drivers,
hence many incompatability problems arise.

You might try the Pinnacle MovieBox.

I prever the Hauppauge 250 or the ADS Instant DVD USB 2. I find no
dropped frames, and capture at 8 megabits/sec perfectly with this device
on a Pentium 4 2.6 gig. (I have nine other USB devices attached).


Forget movie boxes. Better pci card. Like the previous poster, I have
Pinncacle AV/DV delux with breakout box. Works well.

Eddie


He already captures to .avi....he wants hardware to .mpg



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Old August 22nd 05, 04:25 AM posted to alt.video.dvd.tech,rec.video.dvd.tech,uk.rec.video.digital
Stuart Miller
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Default Video capture woes - ideas please


"Alpha" wrote in message
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"Eddie" wrote in message
...

"Alpha" wrote in message
...

"Malcolm H" wrote in message
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I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with
digital capture using DV format from a DV camcorder.

So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home
movies taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle
Digital Video Creator 90.

This is a terrible device. Dazzle went out of business and was bought
by Pinnacle. All Dazzle hardware and software are old as are the
drivers, hence many incompatability problems arise.

You might try the Pinnacle MovieBox.

I prever the Hauppauge 250 or the ADS Instant DVD USB 2. I find no
dropped frames, and capture at 8 megabits/sec perfectly with this device
on a Pentium 4 2.6 gig. (I have nine other USB devices attached).


Forget movie boxes. Better pci card. Like the previous poster, I have
Pinncacle AV/DV delux with breakout box. Works well.

Eddie


He already captures to .avi....he wants hardware to .mpg


Pinnacle studio will capture to several avi and mpeg formats - depends on
what you want and how you set it up. It can then recode (if needed) to the
appropriate parameters for the destination media after menus & titles are
created.

Stuart


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Old August 22nd 05, 11:59 AM posted to alt.video.dvd.tech,rec.video.dvd.tech,uk.rec.video.digital
Eddie
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Default Video capture woes - ideas please


"Alpha" wrote in message
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"Eddie" wrote in message
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"Alpha" wrote in message
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"Malcolm H" wrote in message
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I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with
digital capture using DV format from a DV camcorder.

So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home
movies taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle
Digital Video Creator 90.

This is a terrible device. Dazzle went out of business and was bought
by Pinnacle. All Dazzle hardware and software are old as are the
drivers, hence many incompatability problems arise.

You might try the Pinnacle MovieBox.

I prever the Hauppauge 250 or the ADS Instant DVD USB 2. I find no
dropped frames, and capture at 8 megabits/sec perfectly with this device
on a Pentium 4 2.6 gig. (I have nine other USB devices attached).


Forget movie boxes. Better pci card. Like the previous poster, I have
Pinncacle AV/DV delux with breakout box. Works well.

Eddie


He already captures to .avi....he wants hardware to .mpg

Standard cheap capture devices don't do it,.

Eddie


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Old August 22nd 05, 12:16 PM posted to alt.video.dvd.tech,rec.video.dvd.tech,uk.rec.video.digital
Trev
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Default Video capture woes - ideas please


"Eddie" wrote in message
...

"Alpha" wrote in message
...

"Eddie" wrote in message
...

"Alpha" wrote in message
...

"Malcolm H" wrote in message
...
I am using Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3 and have had very good results with
digital capture using DV format from a DV camcorder.

So good were the results that I decided to update some of my old home
movies taken with a Video8 analog camcorder. I therefore bought Dazzle
Digital Video Creator 90.

This is a terrible device. Dazzle went out of business and was bought
by Pinnacle. All Dazzle hardware and software are old as are the
drivers, hence many incompatability problems arise.

You might try the Pinnacle MovieBox.

I prever the Hauppauge 250 or the ADS Instant DVD USB 2. I find no
dropped frames, and capture at 8 megabits/sec perfectly with this
device on a Pentium 4 2.6 gig. (I have nine other USB devices
attached).


Forget movie boxes. Better pci card. Like the previous poster, I have
Pinncacle AV/DV delux with breakout box. Works well.

Eddie


He already captures to .avi....he wants hardware to .mpg

Standard cheap capture devices don't do it,.

Eddie

My DC 10 has no problem
I expect its a USB speed problem. Maybe the user is only getting USB1.1


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Old August 22nd 05, 02:53 PM posted to alt.video.dvd.tech,rec.video.dvd.tech,uk.rec.video.digital
Malcolm H
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Default Video capture woes - ideas please


"Stuart Miller" wrote in message
news:e24Oe.80246$vj.62988@pd7tw1no...

I am using Pinnacle Studio 9 with their av/dv capture pci card on a amd
2200+.
This combination works very well for me, so I can tell you the problems
are likely in these areas:
1. I do not like usb capture devices. Some computers with some devices do
not properly support usb2, and the earlier versions are just too slow for
real time capture. Hence the dropped frames, jerky video, audio out of
sync., etc.Make sure you can achieve a high enough transfer rate.
2. I do not know the device in question, so I can't say how to change your
capture parameters. My experience is that vhs/8mm capture needs only
352x480 or 352x240 resolution at lower bit rates. Too high a bit
rate/resolution combination puts too much stress on the computer or device
3. A lot depends on where the compression is done. Some devices do it in
hardware, but Pinnacle traditionally does it in software, which is less
desireable, and less expensive, but CAN give very good results.
Compression is hardware means less data to transfer through to the
software, which means better results for slower computers

check www.videohelp.com and www.digitalfaq.com

I am still learning this stuff, but I will be pleased to offer any
suggestions.


I took the original Studio9 package and the Dazzle package back to PC World
and swopped them for the Studio AV/DV package with PCI card included (got
some change too!)

Everything worked perfectly first time!

Moral: don't even think about trying to use USB2 for analog video capture.

Thank you all for your helpful responses.


 




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