Hi. I've got a shuttle barebone which offers RAID function. I have one
Maxtor Diamond 10 with NCQ inside, which works great. But I am curious
wether it would accelerate the performance a lot if I'd add a second
HDD to make it a RAID or is the videoperformance depending more on the
graphics card? I am a video editor, I use Combustion and Vegas Video.
Securing the data would be a nice sideeffect.
Has anyone installed a second HDD after the first, I mean is it
possible to just add a second hard drive without having to format the
first one or reinstalling the OS?

Thanks for help.
Daniel

On 31 Jul 2005 09:48:42 -0700, wrote:

Hi. I've got a shuttle barebone which offers RAID function. I have one
Maxtor Diamond 10 with NCQ inside, which works great. But I am curious
wether it would accelerate the performance a lot if I'd add a second
HDD to make it a RAID or is the videoperformance depending more on the
graphics card? I am a video editor, I use Combustion and Vegas Video.
Securing the data would be a nice sideeffect.
Has anyone installed a second HDD after the first, I mean is it
possible to just add a second hard drive without having to format the
first one or reinstalling the OS?

Thanks for help.
Daniel

You would be better installing a second hard drive to capture the
footage to , that way the drive isn't recording the footage , handling
o/s calls / swap file etc.

Raid is great for video when it comes to multi layers in realtime ,
but i still run a seperate disk for the o/s etc.

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Hi. I've got a shuttle barebone which offers RAID function. I have
one
Maxtor Diamond 10 with NCQ inside, which works great. But I am
curious
wether it would accelerate the performance a lot if I'd add a
second
HDD to make it a RAID or is the videoperformance depending more on
the
graphics card? I am a video editor, I use Combustion and Vegas
Video.
Securing the data would be a nice sideeffect.

To safe guard data, using RAID, you will need three disks drives in
the array.

Has anyone installed a second HDD after the first, I mean is it
possible to just add a second hard drive without having to format
the
first one or reinstalling the OS?


AIUI, no in a RAID, I would go with Garry's suggestion, install the
second HDD as a 'media' drive only.

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Hi. I've got a shuttle barebone which offers RAID function. I have one
Maxtor Diamond 10 with NCQ inside, which works great. But I am curious
wether it would accelerate the performance a lot if I'd add a second
HDD to make it a RAID or is the videoperformance depending more on the
graphics card?

Modern 7200 drives are invariably fast enough for video editing
applications.

Having said that you can get better disk performance using RAID, but
RAID comes in different flavours with different characteristics. RAID 0
will give faster read/writes, but no redundancy. RAID 1 will give you
redundancy with twice the read rate, but the same write rate as with a
single disk. RAID 2 and 3 are rarely used for various reasons. RAID 4
gives you data security because you can recreate the drive's data if one
disk fails, but writes are generally slower. RAID 5 is the most commonly
used on servers, and gives data security with better performance than
with a single drive.

I am a video editor, I use Combustion and Vegas Video.
Securing the data would be a nice sideeffect.

Then RAID 5 would be the way to go. But I'd cautious about implementing
it for economic reasons. Available free disk space is usually an issue
with video editing, and to add an extra (say) 250MB of diskspace, you'd
have to buy two disks.

Has anyone installed a second HDD after the first, I mean is it
possible to just add a second hard drive without having to format the
first one or reinstalling the OS?

Yes, it's quite straightforward; the only thing you might not have to
hand is a set of screws to fix the disk in a spare drive bay - I know
it's bloody stupid but disks rarely come with these :-(. Just set the
links for a slave drive and install. BIOS will detect the drive and
Windows will allocate a drive letter. Most PCs have spare connectors on
the drive daisy-chain data and power cables - if they don't, extensions
are inexpensive and easily obtained. Since most drives seem to come with
FAT32 formatting, you should of course convert your second drive to
NTFS.

Obviously you'll have to ensure that Vegas uses your second drive for
captured data and for VEG and SFK files. Once you set them on the first
capture and render, Vegas should default to the second drive for further
operations.

--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

Hm, that gives me a lot to think about. A second disk just for the
footage is sure a good idea and probably the most simple one to
install. But not having to worry about data loss through mirroring and
double read speed with a Raid1 sure is tempting. Then, in Combustion, I
think the most timeconsuming process is the calculation of the
operators, and layers and nor the reading from the disk. Though that
might shift with increase of layers. But in fact I am still not sure
wether a Raid or a second HD would bring any noticable improvements.
Maybe somebody can comment this.
And then I read in the manual of the raid (ICH6R Controller) that you
should have activated the raid in Bios prior to installing the WinXP
which I apparently didn't cause I just see the AHCI Controller in the
device manager. Having to reinstall the whole OS would be an unbearable
burden that could hinder me from installing any Raid. Or is there
something I got wrong?

"Daniel Bauer" wrote in message
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Hm, that gives me a lot to think about. A second disk just for the
footage is sure a good idea and probably the most simple one to
install. But not having to worry about data loss through mirroring and
double read speed with a Raid1 sure is tempting. Then, in Combustion, I
think the most timeconsuming process is the calculation of the
operators, and layers and nor the reading from the disk. Though that
might shift with increase of layers. But in fact I am still not sure
wether a Raid or a second HD would bring any noticable improvements.
Maybe somebody can comment this.
And then I read in the manual of the raid (ICH6R Controller) that you
should have activated the raid in Bios prior to installing the WinXP
which I apparently didn't cause I just see the AHCI Controller in the
device manager. Having to reinstall the whole OS would be an unbearable
burden that could hinder me from installing any Raid. Or is there
something I got wrong?

You definitely dont need to re-install Windows to use RAID. If your
mummy-board suggests that, make sure you never buy that make in the future!
In the meantime, you can purchase RAID 0 (or 1) PCI cards for just £15.

Alternatively, and something which requires no expense is to simply activate
RAID in Windows. Yes, you can specify that drives are RAID'ed together
from inside Windows. You cannot do this for the Windows boot-up drive,
since you can only specify you want to use RAID from inside Windows (and if
you haven't yet installed it, you clearly can't do that!).
You must have admin. priv., and then go to Control Panel / Admin. Tools /
Comp. Management and click on Disk Management. Right-click on 2 disks
you want to RAID together (but remember, neither can be your Windows
start-up disk!), and first ensure they are converted to Dynamic Disks....
Oh sod it, I can'tbe bothered with describing all this. ;-) Just read
the help - it's all in there under "Dynamic Disks"!