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How to setup AV decoder in balanced pre/power setup



 
 
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Old July 29th 05, 03:01 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
deja
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Default How to setup AV decoder in balanced pre/power setup

I've got a CD player with combined pre-amp (ie digital volume control
and input selector), it has 4 digital inputs (set top box and DVD
player audio), and analogue outputs direct to the power amps via
balanced XLR leads.

My question is - how would I slot in an AV decoder into this setup in
order to:
- continue using the balanced type connections between CD and amps
- use the CD's DAC capability to decode the DVD audio and drive my
existing 2 channel amps/speakers while adding in another 3 channel amp
for RCentre, R&L Rear?

A diagram would sure help. Or if I wanted a multi channel setup, would
I let the AV decoder box do all the DVD DAC?

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Old July 29th 05, 04:44 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
John Russell
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"deja" wrote in message
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I've got a CD player with combined pre-amp (ie digital volume control
and input selector), it has 4 digital inputs (set top box and DVD
player audio), and analogue outputs direct to the power amps via
balanced XLR leads.

My question is - how would I slot in an AV decoder into this setup in
order to:
- continue using the balanced type connections between CD and amps
- use the CD's DAC capability to decode the DVD audio and drive my
existing 2 channel amps/speakers while adding in another 3 channel amp
for RCentre, R&L Rear?

A diagram would sure help. Or if I wanted a multi channel setup, would
I let the AV decoder box do all the DVD DAC?


You want the Yamaha DSPE800. This is Surround Decoder/amp but only amps for
center and rear surround. You continue to use your Hi-Fi for Front
Left/Right. I don't think it has digital front/left right output though. It
assumes that most peole with have an ordinary analoge Hi-Fi inputs. So you
connect the front left/right outputs from the decoder to a spare pair of
analoge inputs on the hi-fi pre-amp.


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Old July 31st 05, 09:01 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
deja
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Default How to setup AV decoder in balanced pre/power setup

Thanks John. I don't have any analogue inputs on the preamp, only
digital. Are they AV decoders that provide a "pass through" for the 2
hifi channels, so the AV box is invisible for hifi use, but kicks in
somehow for multi channel use? If so, then I'd also want XLR
inputs/outputs for the hifi and its all this that I'm coming to beleive
is not very common.

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Old July 31st 05, 09:06 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
John Russell
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Default How to setup AV decoder in balanced pre/power setup


"deja" wrote in message
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Thanks John. I don't have any analogue inputs on the preamp, only
digital. Are they AV decoders that provide a "pass through" for the 2
hifi channels, so the AV box is invisible for hifi use, but kicks in
somehow for multi channel use? If so, then I'd also want XLR
inputs/outputs for the hifi and its all this that I'm coming to beleive
is not very common.


I doubt it. Rember the more you want something "out of the ordinary", the
more it costs.


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Old July 31st 05, 09:08 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
John Russell
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Default How to setup AV decoder in balanced pre/power setup


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"deja" wrote in message
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Thanks John. I don't have any analogue inputs on the preamp, only
digital. Are they AV decoders that provide a "pass through" for the 2
hifi channels, so the AV box is invisible for hifi use, but kicks in
somehow for multi channel use? If so, then I'd also want XLR
inputs/outputs for the hifi and its all this that I'm coming to beleive
is not very common.


I doubt it. Rember the more you want something "out of the ordinary", the
more it costs.


Does your Pre-amp have any kind of Digital Out for recording purposes?


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Old July 31st 05, 10:12 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
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"deja" wrote in message
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Thanks John. I don't have any analogue inputs on the preamp, only
digital. Are they AV decoders that provide a "pass through" for the 2
hifi channels, so the AV box is invisible for hifi use, but kicks in
somehow for multi channel use? If so, then I'd also want XLR
inputs/outputs for the hifi and its all this that I'm coming to beleive
is not very common.


I doubt it. Rember the more you want something "out of the ordinary", the
more it costs.


Does your Pre-amp have any kind of Digital Out for recording purposes?


What I was thinking won't work.


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Old August 1st 05, 12:23 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
James Perrett
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Default How to setup AV decoder in balanced pre/power setup

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:12:37 +0100, John Russell
wrote:


"John Russell" wrote in message
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"John Russell" wrote in message
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"deja" wrote in message
oups.com...
Thanks John. I don't have any analogue inputs on the preamp, only
digital. Are they AV decoders that provide a "pass through" for the 2
hifi channels, so the AV box is invisible for hifi use, but kicks in
somehow for multi channel use? If so, then I'd also want XLR
inputs/outputs for the hifi and its all this that I'm coming to
beleive
is not very common.


I doubt it. Rember the more you want something "out of the ordinary",
the
more it costs.


Does your Pre-amp have any kind of Digital Out for recording purposes?


What I was thinking won't work.



You are probably on the right lines. If deja's CD player has a tape
monitor loop then that can be used.

If not then he could go for a real professional Dolby decoder which will
be fully balanced (see www.hhb.co.uk for Dolby gear). The other
possibility would be to use a balanced to unbalanced convertor which are
fairly widely available from professional audio dealsers - again, HHB
would one source and http://www.studiospares.com would be another,
possibly cheaper, source.

Cheers.

James.
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Old August 1st 05, 01:53 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
John Russell
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Default How to setup AV decoder in balanced pre/power setup


"James Perrett" wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:12:37 +0100, John Russell
wrote:


"John Russell" wrote in message
...

"John Russell" wrote in message
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"deja" wrote in message
oups.com...
Thanks John. I don't have any analogue inputs on the preamp, only
digital. Are they AV decoders that provide a "pass through" for the 2
hifi channels, so the AV box is invisible for hifi use, but kicks in
somehow for multi channel use? If so, then I'd also want XLR
inputs/outputs for the hifi and its all this that I'm coming to
beleive
is not very common.


I doubt it. Rember the more you want something "out of the ordinary",
the
more it costs.


Does your Pre-amp have any kind of Digital Out for recording purposes?


What I was thinking won't work.



You are probably on the right lines. If deja's CD player has a tape
monitor loop then that can be used.


But he dosn't want to have two sets of speakers. That means he needs to
seperate off front left/right and use his hi-fi for that, whilst getting
another amp /speakers for the rest.



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Old August 4th 05, 11:04 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
deja
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Default How to setup AV decoder in balanced pre/power setup

I have the option of adding a digital out card which would be £1000...

I was told some kind of setup was possible, I need to go back to this
chap and ask him exactly how! Maybe he's got some exoctic box of tricks
in mind.

David

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Old August 4th 05, 12:01 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
John Russell
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Default How to setup AV decoder in balanced pre/power setup


"deja" wrote in message
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I have the option of adding a digital out card which would be £1000...

I was told some kind of setup was possible, I need to go back to this
chap and ask him exactly how! Maybe he's got some exoctic box of tricks
in mind.

David

If you don't want two sets of speakers you need to seperate the front
speakers from any surround stream for use by the hi-fi part of your system.
A digital output would just send all the stream to another device, without
extracting the front left/right audio.

It looks like you have a very expensive Hi-Fi only system. You may find the
only option is to have a separete room for that, and get a complete Home
Theater system for the TV room.




 




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