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the mishmash of 4:3 and 16:9



 
 
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Old July 27th 05, 11:21 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
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Default the mishmash of 4:3 and 16:9

If I'm not mistaken, when WinMCE (2005) records a program it records it in
the format it is trasmitted, it doesn't record it at the zoom level you may
have chosen to view it. The vast majority of TV programmes nowdays is 16:9.
This presents me with a problem as I have a 4:3 TV. Using the zoom function
in MCE while I'm viewing a program enables me to toggle between 4:3PS and
4:3LB and get a true picture. I am using Nero VisionEXpress v3.1.0.0 to rip
the MCE .dvr-ms recordings to DVD. The problem is the DVD's are burnt at
4:3, so the resultant image is tall and stretched (north/south) when played
on a normal DVD player and viewed on a 4:3 TV screen. Also, DVD's ripped
using Nero VE do not respond to screen format changes. I first thought my
DVD player might be faulty because it couldn't change the screen format, but
when I played the same ripped DVD in Windows MCE I couldn't change the
screen format in that either. I also tried to play the same DVD in WinDVD
and that wouldn't accept a screen format change. So it seems that NeroVE
doesn't include that'ingredient' when it rips DVD's.
I've looked around in Windows MCE and can't find anywhere where you can
force the recording at a particular format. It will only record the format
that comes down the wire. And in NeroVE there seems to be no way one can
force a screen format change with the rip. And in the Nero Video Options one
can choose either 4:3 or 16:9 but this makes no difference to the format
burnt. So do I need to find a different ripper? Is there one that will
change the viewing format when ripping from .dvr-ms to DVD?
Thanks for any help.


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Old July 28th 05, 11:01 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
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Default progress on...: the mishmash of 4:3 and 16:9


"Simon Patten" wrote in message
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"tg" wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, when WinMCE (2005) records a program it records it
in
the format it is trasmitted, it doesn't record it at the zoom level you
may
have chosen to view it. The vast majority of TV programmes nowdays is
16:9.
This presents me with a problem as I have a 4:3 TV.

[Snip]

You could try VideoReDo which has an option (when saving) to change
the aspect ratio from 16:9 to 4:3 and vice-versa. That might help?

yes you were right Simon, absolutely right.
it seems that NeroVE is to blame. I had my suspicions all along that
there was a failing in this software. As an alternative I tried VideoReDo
and lo and behold, no more distortion. VideoReDo converts the dvr-ms file to
mpeg and it looks great. One can then burn a DVD movie from the mpeg. NeroVE
also converts dvr-ms to mpeg but it squashes the image in at the edges and
distorts it. I tried loads of different settings in the program but NeroVE
just can't do it. VideoReDo did it right first time.


 




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