Am I correct that to split an avi file (to cut off several blank hours of
unattended capture) within Premiere Pro it can only be done by export/render
operation?

I did this to a 48GB file to cut it to 14GB of actual video but it takes a
long time. My question is really asking why does Premiere not offer a quick
way of doing this like I understand Videodub can do (which I have not
tried)?

Beemer

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:10:42 GMT, "Beemer" wrote:

Am I correct that to split an avi file (to cut off several blank hours of
unattended capture) within Premiere Pro it can only be done by export/render
operation?

I did this to a 48GB file to cut it to 14GB of actual video but it takes a
long time. My question is really asking why does Premiere not offer a quick
way of doing this like I understand Videodub can do (which I have not
tried)?

Beemer


the way i look at the two programs you have mentioned.:

premiere pro is a video editing product.
virtauldub is a video file processing system.

It should take a max of just over an hour to output a 14GB file from
timeline , and if output to a seperate hard-drive , a lot less than
that.
Gary MacKenzie
Audio Visual Technician / Video Editor

In message , Beemer
writes
Am I correct that to split an avi file (to cut off several blank hours of
unattended capture) within Premiere Pro it can only be done by export/render
operation?

I did this to a 48GB file to cut it to 14GB of actual video but it takes a
long time. My question is really asking why does Premiere not offer a quick
way of doing this like I understand Videodub can do (which I have not
tried)?

Vegas also. In my case it's a standard procedure. I top-and-tail all my
video clips then write-back to miniDV tape. No rendering, and it takes
the same time as the running time of the clip.
--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

"gary mackenzie" wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:10:42 GMT, "Beemer" wrote:

Am I correct that to split an avi file (to cut off several blank hours of
unattended capture) within Premiere Pro it can only be done by
export/render
operation?

I did this to a 48GB file to cut it to 14GB of actual video but it takes a
long time. My question is really asking why does Premiere not offer a
quick
way of doing this like I understand Videodub can do (which I have not
tried)?

Beemer


the way i look at the two programs you have mentioned.:

premiere pro is a video editing product.
virtauldub is a video file processing system.

It should take a max of just over an hour to output a 14GB file from
timeline , and if output to a seperate hard-drive , a lot less than
that.
Gary MacKenzie
Audio Visual Technician / Video Editor

Gary,

As will have guessed my experience is minimal. So presumably these avi
splitters take just the same time?

Beemer

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:32:20 GMT, Tony Morgan
allegedly wrote:

In message , Beemer
writes
Am I correct that to split an avi file (to cut off several blank hours
of unattended capture) within Premiere Pro it can only be done by
export/render operation?

I did this to a 48GB file to cut it to 14GB of actual video but it
takes a long time. My question is really asking why does Premiere not
offer a quick way of doing this like I understand Videodub can do
(which I have not tried)?

Vegas also. In my case it's a standard procedure. I top-and-tail all
my video clips then write-back to miniDV tape. No rendering, and it
takes the same time as the running time of the clip.

That's different. Trimming the video clip and exporting back to tape with
Premiere is the same as in Vegas - it takes the running time, there is no
rendering.

Trimming the clip and writing a new AVI file to disc however, isn't
something that I've done for a while but I don't remember it rendering,
but I wouldn't be suprised to hear it takes a longer time than Videodub.

"Tony Morgan" wrote in message
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In message , Beemer
writes
Am I correct that to split an avi file (to cut off several blank hours of
unattended capture) within Premiere Pro it can only be done by
export/render
operation?

I did this to a 48GB file to cut it to 14GB of actual video but it takes a
long time. My question is really asking why does Premiere not offer a
quick
way of doing this like I understand Videodub can do (which I have not
tried)?

Vegas also. In my case it's a standard procedure. I top-and-tail all my
video clips then write-back to miniDV tape. No rendering, and it takes
the same time as the running time of the clip.
--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

Tony,

Thanks (nice site!) my problem is only when I have to go out and leave vhs
capture running and then doing it again!!! Never thought I would 80% fill
two 250GB hard discs with progs and video!

Beemer

Beemer

"Dave R" wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:32:20 GMT, Tony Morgan
allegedly wrote:

In message , Beemer
writes
Am I correct that to split an avi file (to cut off several blank hours
of unattended capture) within Premiere Pro it can only be done by
export/render operation?

I did this to a 48GB file to cut it to 14GB of actual video but it
takes a long time. My question is really asking why does Premiere not
offer a quick way of doing this like I understand Videodub can do
(which I have not tried)?

Vegas also. In my case it's a standard procedure. I top-and-tail all
my video clips then write-back to miniDV tape. No rendering, and it
takes the same time as the running time of the clip.

That's different. Trimming the video clip and exporting back to tape with
Premiere is the same as in Vegas - it takes the running time, there is no
rendering.

Trimming the clip and writing a new AVI file to disc however, isn't
something that I've done for a while but I don't remember it rendering,
but I wouldn't be suprised to hear it takes a longer time than Videodub.

Dave,

That is what I want to do ...trim the avi (in Premiere Pro) and save to disk
but I appear to be doing it wrong by using Export. Surely Trimming in
Premiere Pro only trims the Timeline and not the original avi?

Beemer

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:08:01 GMT, "Beemer"
allegedly wrote:

That is what I want to do ...trim the avi (in Premiere Pro) and save
to disk but I appear to be doing it wrong by using Export.

I think Export is your only option if you want a new file created.

Surely
Trimming in Premiere Pro only trims the Timeline and not the original
avi?

Correct, anything you do on the timeline does NOT affect the original
files at all. They remain untouched at all times.

I would have thought though that the export would take no more than real
time, so writing 40 mins of video should take 40 mins.

Of course, a program designed to cut and slice video files should
accomplish this a lot quicker.


PS. Can you sort your Outlook out, so that it marks quoted text properly.
I thought for a minute that you hadn't actually typed in anything.

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In message , Beemer
writes
Am I correct that to split an avi file (to cut off several blank hours of
unattended capture) within Premiere Pro it can only be done by
export/render
operation?

I did this to a 48GB file to cut it to 14GB of actual video but it takes a
long time. My question is really asking why does Premiere not offer a
quick
way of doing this like I understand Videodub can do (which I have not
tried)?

Vegas also. In my case it's a standard procedure. I top-and-tail all my
video clips then write-back to miniDV tape. No rendering, and it takes
the same time as the running time of the clip.
--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

Tony,

Thanks (nice site!) my problem is only when I have to go out and leave
vhs
capture running and then doing it again!!! Never thought I would 80% fill
two 250GB hard discs with progs and video!

Beemer

Beemer

Sorry Beemer, I am confused as to what you want to do... Are you capturijng
the entire tape then want to cut of parts? or have you got the file
already saved on your hard disk?

I dont know about premiere pro but in prem 6.5, I edit then go to 'export
timeline/ move' not 'to tape' premiere will then save your work area on the
timeline as an avi file, ( you may need to change the project settings to
suit)

My system usually takes about equal time as suggested before 1 min or
processing for 1 min of video.

If you have not captured the file then using batch capture will help you not
capture the bits you dont want in the first place.

Good luck

Peter