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Hardware MPEG encoding, which card



 
 
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Old June 16th 05, 11:10 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.dvd
Ben Thomas
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Default Hardware MPEG encoding, which card

Hi all,

I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it takes many
hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with 512MB RAM
and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to take even longer to
convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card) into MPEG2 suitable for DVD.
I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and there aren't many faster CPU
alternatives but please correct me if I'm wrong.

So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?

Thanks for any help.

Ben Thomas
Melbourne
Australia
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Old June 17th 05, 12:57 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]
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Default Hardware MPEG encoding, which card

Actually, ULead is *very* slow. You might get better results from
TMPEnc, as 2700+ is just fine for near-realtime encoding. Quicktime
Pro might also be of help here.

http://flaskmpeg.sourceforge.net/
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/

Cheers - Neil

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:10:28 GMT, Ben Thomas
wrote:

Hi all,

I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it takes many
hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with 512MB RAM
and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to take even longer to
convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card) into MPEG2 suitable for DVD.
I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and there aren't many faster CPU
alternatives but please correct me if I'm wrong.

So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?

Thanks for any help.

Ben Thomas
Melbourne
Australia


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Old June 17th 05, 01:25 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Ben Thomas
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Default Hardware MPEG encoding, which card

Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] wrote:
Actually, ULead is *very* slow. You might get better results from
TMPEnc, as 2700+ is just fine for near-realtime encoding. Quicktime
Pro might also be of help here.

http://flaskmpeg.sourceforge.net/
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/


Thanks Niel,

That would be fine if I just wanted to simply turn the source into one output
video file. I usually like to cut some scenes so I need some editing abilit too.
It would be great if I could tell Ulead to use TMPGenc.

Ben
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Old June 17th 05, 02:08 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.dvd
mb
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Default Hardware MPEG encoding, which card

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:10:28 GMT, Ben Thomas
wrote:

Hi all,

I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it takes many
hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with 512MB RAM
and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to take even longer to
convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card) into MPEG2 suitable for DVD.
I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and there aren't many faster CPU
alternatives but please correct me if I'm wrong.

So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?

Thanks for any help.

Ben Thomas
Melbourne
Australia


Do yourself a favour. Buy a dvd recorder which does all this in real
time.

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Old June 17th 05, 04:40 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.dvd
Ben Thomas
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Default Hardware MPEG encoding, which card

mb wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:10:28 GMT, Ben Thomas
wrote:


Hi all,

I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it takes many
hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with 512MB RAM
and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to take even longer to
convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card) into MPEG2 suitable for DVD.
I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and there aren't many faster CPU
alternatives but please correct me if I'm wrong.

So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?

Thanks for any help.

Ben Thomas
Melbourne
Australia



Do yourself a favour. Buy a dvd recorder which does all this in real
time.


Can you create chapters, menus, scene transitions, etc?
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Old June 17th 05, 06:43 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.dvd
spodosaurus
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Default Hardware MPEG encoding, which card

Ben Thomas wrote:
Hi all,

I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it takes
many hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with
512MB RAM and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to
take even longer to convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card)
into MPEG2 suitable for DVD. I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and
there aren't many faster CPU alternatives but please correct me if I'm
wrong.

So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?

Thanks for any help.

Ben Thomas
Melbourne
Australia


I've recently been researching something very similar to this. Do to
other equipment needed, (CPU upgrade from Athlon 1700+, VCR, new video
card, etc) we opted for a software based encoder as our needs were
pretty basic. However, there were two hardware based encoders that I was
seriously looking at:
Pinnacle Studio AV/DV card (comes with Pinnacle Studio 9 software)
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/WebVideo/...sp?Langue_ID=7
http://www.trinix.com.au/r_video.htm
(down in the list, just above the deluxe version)

Leadtek Winfast PVR 2000:
http://www.leadtek.com.tw/eng/tv_tun...6&pronameid=91

That said, I could really use more information from you: what camera are
you using? Is it using analogue out? Firewire?

cheers,

Ari

--
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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/
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Old June 17th 05, 07:05 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.dvd
Ben Thomas
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Default Hardware MPEG encoding, which card

spodosaurus wrote:


I've recently been researching something very similar to this. Do to
other equipment needed, (CPU upgrade from Athlon 1700+, VCR, new video
card, etc) we opted for a software based encoder as our needs were
pretty basic. However, there were two hardware based encoders that I was
seriously looking at:
Pinnacle Studio AV/DV card (comes with Pinnacle Studio 9 software)
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/WebVideo/...sp?Langue_ID=7

http://www.trinix.com.au/r_video.htm
(down in the list, just above the deluxe version)

Leadtek Winfast PVR 2000:
http://www.leadtek.com.tw/eng/tv_tun...6&pronameid=91


Thanks for the info.

That said, I could really use more information from you: what camera are
you using? Is it using analogue out? Firewire?

cheers,

Ari


My camara is a JVC GR-DVP3EA MiniDV with firewire out.
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Old June 17th 05, 07:47 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.dvd
spodosaurus
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Default Hardware MPEG encoding, which card

Ben Thomas wrote:
spodosaurus wrote:


I've recently been researching something very similar to this. Do to
other equipment needed, (CPU upgrade from Athlon 1700+, VCR, new video
card, etc) we opted for a software based encoder as our needs were
pretty basic. However, there were two hardware based encoders that I
was seriously looking at:
Pinnacle Studio AV/DV card (comes with Pinnacle Studio 9 software)
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/WebVideo/...sp?Langue_ID=7

http://www.trinix.com.au/r_video.htm
(down in the list, just above the deluxe version)

Leadtek Winfast PVR 2000:
http://www.leadtek.com.tw/eng/tv_tun...6&pronameid=91



Thanks for the info.

That said, I could really use more information from you: what camera
are you using? Is it using analogue out? Firewire?

cheers,

Ari


My camara is a JVC GR-DVP3EA MiniDV with firewire out.


In that case, look at the pinnacle system (I need to confirm if the card
it contains is a true hardware encoding card). Hmmm..I wonder if I still
have the Australian PC User magazine that did a brief review of kits
available for the purpose you want (didn't quite apply to me)...let me
check...

Found it, but had to look back a fair ways: October 2004.

Hmmm...not much in there worth much. They don't make a point in the
budget range about whether cards have a hardware encoder or not, aside
from the Adaptec VideoOh! card (internal and external) which does:
http://www.adaptec.com.au/worldwide/...and +Creation
http://www.simline.com.au/product.asp?prodid=5180

How mucha re you planning on spending for this?

There's a range of different cards here and you can explore their features:
http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php...subid=00000065

--
spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/
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Old June 17th 05, 07:53 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.dvd
mb
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Default Hardware MPEG encoding, which card

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:40:03 GMT, Ben Thomas
wrote:

mb wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:10:28 GMT, Ben Thomas
wrote:


Hi all,

I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it takes many
hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with 512MB RAM
and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to take even longer to
convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card) into MPEG2 suitable for DVD.
I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and there aren't many faster CPU
alternatives but please correct me if I'm wrong.

So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?

Thanks for any help.

Ben Thomas
Melbourne
Australia



Do yourself a favour. Buy a dvd recorder which does all this in real
time.


Can you create chapters, menus, scene transitions, etc?


It does the chapters automatically.
If you want to do fancy stuff then upload and use dvd author and NO
encoding required because its already encoded.

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Old June 17th 05, 10:24 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.dvd
Trev
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Default Hardware MPEG encoding, which card


"mb" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:40:03 GMT, Ben Thomas
wrote:

mb wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:10:28 GMT, Ben Thomas
wrote:


Hi all,

I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it takes
many
hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with
512MB RAM
and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to take even
longer to
convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card) into MPEG2 suitable for
DVD.
I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and there aren't many faster CPU
alternatives but please correct me if I'm wrong.

So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?

Thanks for any help.

Ben Thomas
Melbourne
Australia


Do yourself a favour. Buy a dvd recorder which does all this in real
time.


Can you create chapters, menus, scene transitions, etc?


It does the chapters automatically.
If you want to do fancy stuff then upload and use dvd author and NO
encoding required because its already encoded.


If you alter it then it will need re-entering.Its the transitions and
effects that take up the time especially noise reduction and colour changes.


 




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