"Laurence Payne" wrote in
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On Sat, 28 May 2005 00:05:59 GMT, "G Hardy"
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Anyway - her retort whenever she gets one of these camera-laden
wannabes at
a wedding, wanting to know the ISO and F-stops she uses, is to get
a
disposable camera out of her pocket and tell the geek "It's not
your camera,
it's what you do with it - I can shoot a wedding with this if I
needed
to..."

So why doesn't she? That's a lot of expensive gear she's carrying,
if the compact would do just as well.

Exactly!...

Because although the artistic quality will be present the *required*
technical quality will almost certainly be lacking.

In the pro video work place there are minimum production standards to
meet, although if a case can be argued these standards can be lowered
or removed (hence the use of button-hole 'spy' cameras etc.), in the
rock climbing example it might well be acceptable to use a well
specified 'Palmcorder' - but I suspect that (unless the camera is
mounted on a helmet) a PD170 would be easier to use/ hold.

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 May 2005 00:05:59 GMT, "G Hardy"
wrote:

Anyway - her retort whenever she gets one of these camera-laden wannabes
at
a wedding, wanting to know the ISO and F-stops she uses, is to get a
disposable camera out of her pocket and tell the geek "It's not your
camera,
it's what you do with it - I can shoot a wedding with this if I needed
to..."

So why doesn't she? That's a lot of expensive gear she's carrying,
if the compact would do just as well.

"If I needed to"

I know someone with newer, cheaper, more technologically advanced kit than
my wife has. Even my pictures are better than his - i.e. his are worse than
sh*t ;-)

There are a pile of other considerations when taking money from someone for
photographic (or video) service. Personally, I think the XM1 gets better
imagery than the XL1, but the XL1 projects a better image of the company
than the XM1. There are many reasons for choosing the kit you use - and they
aren't all down to price vs. features. The woman with the disposable camera
may well do better with it than "Uncle Bob" with his studio-in-a-bag, but
she still needs to inspire confidence in her customer.

We did a Friday wedding this week, and our "rest room" was the same one
where they locked the presents and table cameras. In the lull after the
first dance, I collected all the ones with unused frames, and used them up.
The bride's looking forward to getting those films back, because she watched
the shots being composed.

Ultimately, the test of any photo or piece of video is not how technically
perfect it is, it is whether anyone will watch it.

disposable?

Pah....what a self important little hack...


I do all my weddings with a camera obscura - and they love it.



I appeciate the point of the disposable 'fable' however where the argument
falls down is if you can be a crap photographer with a hasselblad or a
disposable camera, all things being equal isn't it better to have great
quality crap photography than crap quality/crap photography?


I know were talking about video here, but the other day I was thinking how
far photography has come with technology and then I thought...actually not
so far. The only difference is with digital we can get our images instantly.
But a 11x14 photo taken today with my Nikon D70 will look infinitely worse
than say one taken with with an old Nikon F and the equivalent lens and the
film of the day.

But with digital, I get to look at how average the image is much quicker
thus satisfying my generation x need for immediate satisfaction.


The weight of 3CCD may not be the right tool for your trade, but I have to
say the image is noticably better.






"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 May 2005 00:05:59 GMT, "G Hardy"
wrote:

Anyway - her retort whenever she gets one of these camera-laden wannabes
at
a wedding, wanting to know the ISO and F-stops she uses, is to get a
disposable camera out of her pocket and tell the geek "It's not your
camera,
it's what you do with it - I can shoot a wedding with this if I needed
to..."

So why doesn't she? That's a lot of expensive gear she's carrying,
if the compact would do just as well.