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| I've sold a Sony Hi8 Camcorder (first generation of camcorder, DCR TRV-7000E ). The buyer tell me now that he cannot read tape that has been recorded on others camcorders (I think 8mm) and from test tape that professionnals use. But it record well and read his own recorded tape. He asked a repairer that told head are defective. Is that possible that a camcorder that record and read very well its own tape has defective head ? if a camcorder cannot read tapes recorded on other camcorders is it considered defective ? |
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| On Sun, 15 May 2005 10:53:07 +0200, "Fidji" wrote: I've sold a Sony Hi8 Camcorder (first generation of camcorder, DCR TRV-7000E ). The buyer tell me now that he cannot read tape that has been recorded on others camcorders (I think 8mm) and from test tape that professionnals use. But it record well and read his own recorded tape. He asked a repairer that told head are defective. Is that possible that a camcorder that record and read very well its own tape has defective head ? if a camcorder cannot read tapes recorded on other camcorders is it considered defective ? 1. if the heads record and play back properly , they aren't defective , though they may be misalligned from normal setting. 2. many camcorders cannot replay tapes from a different camcorder especially those recorded in LP mode. |
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| "Fidji" wrote in message ... I've sold a Sony Hi8 Camcorder (first generation of camcorder, DCR TRV-7000E ). The buyer tell me now that he cannot read tape that has been recorded on others camcorders (I think 8mm) and from test tape that professionnals use. But it record well and read his own recorded tape. He asked a repairer that told head are defective. Is that possible that a camcorder that record and read very well its own tape has defective head ? Most likely, the heads are out of alignment, which will result in the symptoms you've described. if a camcorder cannot read tapes recorded on other camcorders is it considered defective ? Yes. If it was within the alignment specification, it wouldn't have this problem. |
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| In message , PTravel writes "Fidji" wrote in message ... I've sold a Sony Hi8 Camcorder (first generation of camcorder, DCR TRV-7000E ). The buyer tell me now that he cannot read tape that has been recorded on others camcorders (I think 8mm) and from test tape that professionnals use. But it record well and read his own recorded tape. He asked a repairer that told head are defective. Is that possible that a camcorder that record and read very well its own tape has defective head ? Most likely, the heads are out of alignment, which will result in the symptoms you've described. if a camcorder cannot read tapes recorded on other camcorders is it considered defective ? Yes. If it was within the alignment specification, it wouldn't have this problem. Given the information that we've gleaned from the OP, ISTM that the most likely cause is an LP recording from another camcorder. Sony manuals state quite clearly that LP recordings from another camcorder are likely not to replay properly. -- Tony Morgan http://www.camcord.info |
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| On 5/16/2005, Tony Morgan managed to type: In message , PTravel writes "Fidji" wrote in message ... I've sold a Sony Hi8 Camcorder (first generation of camcorder, DCR TRV-7000E ). The buyer tell me now that he cannot read tape that has been recorded on others camcorders (I think 8mm) and from test tape that professionnals use. But it record well and read his own recorded tape. He asked a repairer that told head are defective. Is that possible that a camcorder that record and read very well its own tape has defective head ? Most likely, the heads are out of alignment, which will result in the symptoms you've described. if a camcorder cannot read tapes recorded on other camcorders is it considered defective ? Yes. If it was within the alignment specification, it wouldn't have this problem. Given the information that we've gleaned from the OP, ISTM that the most likely cause is an LP recording from another camcorder. Sony manuals state quite clearly that LP recordings from another camcorder are likely not to replay properly. You know, the OP said the camcorder he sold is Hi-8, but he didn't say what kind of camcorders the problem tapes came from. One can't expect a Hi-8 camcorder to read a digital-8 tape, for instance. By design... Gino -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") |
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| "Tony Morgan" wrote in message ... In message , PTravel writes "Fidji" wrote in message ... I've sold a Sony Hi8 Camcorder (first generation of camcorder, DCR TRV-7000E ). The buyer tell me now that he cannot read tape that has been recorded on others camcorders (I think 8mm) and from test tape that professionnals use. But it record well and read his own recorded tape. He asked a repairer that told head are defective. Is that possible that a camcorder that record and read very well its own tape has defective head ? Most likely, the heads are out of alignment, which will result in the symptoms you've described. if a camcorder cannot read tapes recorded on other camcorders is it considered defective ? Yes. If it was within the alignment specification, it wouldn't have this problem. Given the information that we've gleaned from the OP, ISTM that the most likely cause is an LP recording from another camcorder. Sony manuals state quite clearly that LP recordings from another camcorder are likely not to replay properly. On the contrary, there's nothing to indicate that the buyer of the camcorder was attempting to play back LP tapes. The default for Sony camcorders is SP, not LP, and it takes a deliberate change to a menu setting to access LP. All indications are that the camcorder heads are out of alignment, which is a very, very common condition for older consumer camcorders. And, as an aside, it is relatively rare for properly aligned camcorders to fail to play back tapes recorded in other machines, EVEN if they are recorded in LP. -- Tony Morgan http://www.camcord.info |
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| Incidently, not to belabor a point, but I took a quick look at your website. It's well-intentioned, but has a fair amount of incorrect information. Specifically: 1. Premiere is capable of time-code based scene detection on capture. You're wrong when you say it can only import entire clips. It also will run on less than 512 meg of RAM. 2. Capture can be done within a video editor, but can also be done with specialized tools, e.g. Scenealyzer Live. These are capable of optical scene detection, as well as time-code-based scene detection, and can also preview a tape to allow clip-specific captures. 4. AVI and mpeg are particularly poor choices for sending video over the internet. High-compression formats, e.g. Apple's .mov Quicktime or Microsoft's .wmv are much better. 5. "Most people have a VHS recorder, but DVD can present problems"? That may be true in Britain, I don't know. It's certainly not true in the US, where you can buy DVD players for as little as $25. 6. What set-top DVD players do you know that will play DVD-RAM? 7. Most miniDV camcorders do NOT provide the highest quality video. Contemporary consumer camcorders are dismal kludges that produce grainy, noisey video. Most Hi8 camcorders will produce higher-quality video. 6. "Movies" shot in low light are not grainy, etc. unless shot with poor-quality consumer camcorders. My camcorder is a VX2000 miniDV and it produces brilliant, sharp, saturated non-grainy video by the light of a single candle. There's nothing inherent in either digital formats, generally, or the miniDV format, specifically, that results in poor low-light performance. The effect that you describe is the result of deliberate design compromises introduced by camcorder manufactures in their lower-end consumer machines. 7. "Nightshot" is simply infra-red sensitive videography. It is not limited to 3 feet and produces wonderful results with good camcorders. 8. PAL camcorders are available from reputable dealers in the US at good prices, e.g. B&H and Adorama, both of which are extremely ethical, reliable and will readily accept returns and exchanges. 9. Neither Digital8 nor MiniDV support component video as part of the spec. 10. You wrote: " You should also be aware that shooting in low light (no matter what the manufacturer claims) results in a substantial loss of quality." That's utterly and completely wrong. Have you ever seen the output of a decent miniDV camcorder? 11. AVI isn't "uncompressed." AVI is nothing more than a file wrapper which can accomodate a variety of codec-encoded video formats. HuffyUV-encoded avi is compressed, but non-lossy. DV-25, i.e. miniDV and Digital8, encoded avi is most definitely encoded in lossy format at a ratio of about 5 to 1. I don't have time to review everything else on your website. I appreciate your interest in helping other amateurs, but jumping in with misleading or simply erroneous information does more harm than good. |
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| "PTravel" wrote in message ... "Fidji" wrote in message ... I've sold a Sony Hi8 Camcorder (first generation of camcorder, DCR TRV-7000E ). The buyer tell me now that he cannot read tape that has been recorded on others camcorders (I think 8mm) and from test tape that professionnals use. But it record well and read his own recorded tape. He asked a repairer that told head are defective. Is that possible that a camcorder that record and read very well its own tape has defective head ? Most likely, the heads are out of alignment, which will result in the symptoms you've described. if a camcorder cannot read tapes recorded on other camcorders is it considered defective ? Yes. If it was within the alignment specification, it wouldn't have this problem. or the camera they where recoded on was out of alignment |
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