On Wed, 04 May 2005 09:15:01 GMT, ()
wrote:

CJP- [Tue, 3 May 2005 18:25:22 -0400]:
2. ...Like the "Grammy" awards, often the
source of the term is lost in the mists of time. ...
who don't know what a grammaphone is

Hard to find out lacking a good spell, but I've
ferreted it out with my uncanny ability to use
a suggested spelling list. Here it goes:

Main Entry: gramœoœphone
Pronunciation: 'gra-m&-"fOn
Function: noun
Etymology: from Gramophone, a trademark
: PHONOGRAPH

But even that See-also is unknown to many today,
or at least, seldom used. Record player, turntable,
- jukebox, even - will hit home. Maybe.

"What's a record?" Jukebox has survived as any device which plays music
(or sometimes video) on demand from a large selection (and of course
there are still many of them in pubs), but few people I know have a
record player or 'turntable' at home now. Or reel-to-reel tape
recorders (yes, I have more than one g)...

Chris C

Some of us still do (audio cassettes done as ADA: recorded on analogue
tape, digital mixing and processing, and analogue out to cassette). I
haven't seen any "straight to digital" microphones yet,

http://www.swee****er.com/store/detail/C01usb

FYI: if he REALLY wants to avoid computers (his loss, IMO) TWO miniDV decks
with frame accurate editing capability would really be the best idea.

Once you go to DVD, you're LOSING quality by virtue of the compression that
format requires (MPEG). At least if he works from one deck to another,
there's no loss. Once he has a master tape he likes, he can output to a DVD
writer if he wants to.

Again, in my opinion, he's far better off learning to use a computer.

But yes, your example is one of Linear Editing.


"Griffo Fooxburr" wrote in message
...
Thank you very much for your answers (especially Alpha & C.J.Patten).
As the latter says, "often the source of the term is lost in the mists of
time", that is why I expected all theese programmes I'm reading about like
Premiere, Studio, Xpress, Movie Maker have their counterpart on the Linear
Editing side :-) Now I see it's another world, actually...

Now I can even find one LE-digital combination: one of my colleagues at
work
says he doesn't want to do any computer-based editing of his DV footage.
He
simply wants to transfer everything he captured with his camcorder to a
DVD,
cutting off some parts. Nothing added, nothing changed. For this purpose
he
is about to buy a standalone DVD recorder with a firewire input. This
would
be a good Linear Editing, yet digital, example, right?

Thanks again.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Phillipo"
I'm new to video editing. I understand NLE stands for Non Linear Editing.
I
would like to know what this really means. Is there Linear Editing too?
Can you provide some examples?

Film, scissors, scotch tape.

"Chris Phillipo" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...
Subject: NLE? Is there LE?
From: "Griffo Fooxburr"
Newsgroups: rec.video.desktop, rec.video, uk.rec.video.digital

Hello all,
I'm new to video editing. I understand NLE stands for Non Linear Editing.
I
would like to know what this really means. Is there Linear Editing too?
Can you provide some examples?




Film, scissors, scotch tape.
--
_________________________
Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
http://www.ramsays-online.com


Now if only "PTRAVEL" and "Chuck U. Farley" are listening.

LOL;
Ken

"Ken Maltby" wrote in message
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"Chris Phillipo" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...
Subject: NLE? Is there LE?
From: "Griffo Fooxburr"
Newsgroups: rec.video.desktop, rec.video, uk.rec.video.digital

Hello all,
I'm new to video editing. I understand NLE stands for Non Linear
Editing.
I
would like to know what this really means. Is there Linear Editing too?
Can you provide some examples?




Film, scissors, scotch tape.
--
_________________________
Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
http://www.ramsays-online.com


Now if only "PTRAVEL" and "Chuck U. Farley" are listening.

I am. What's your point?



LOL;
Ken

"Chris Phillipo" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...
Subject: NLE? Is there LE?
From: "Griffo Fooxburr"
Newsgroups: rec.video.desktop, rec.video, uk.rec.video.digital

Hello all,
I'm new to video editing. I understand NLE stands for Non Linear
Editing.
I
would like to know what this really means. Is there Linear Editing
too?
Can you provide some examples?

snip all the good examples)

"Ken Maltby" wrote in message
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Now if only "PTRAVEL" and "Chuck U. Farley" are listening.


"PTravel" wrote in message
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I am. What's your point?


Are you still insisting that VideoReDo is not an NLE?

Ken

"Ken Maltby" wrote in message
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"Chris Phillipo" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
says...
Subject: NLE? Is there LE?
From: "Griffo Fooxburr"
Newsgroups: rec.video.desktop, rec.video, uk.rec.video.digital

Hello all,
I'm new to video editing. I understand NLE stands for Non Linear
Editing.
I
would like to know what this really means. Is there Linear Editing
too?
Can you provide some examples?

snip all the good examples)

"Ken Maltby" wrote in message
...


Now if only "PTRAVEL" and "Chuck U. Farley" are listening.


"PTravel" wrote in message
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I am. What's your point?


Are you still insisting that VideoReDo is not an NLE?

Ken

VideoReDo is an NLE in the same sense that Scenealyzer Live is an NLE --
they can both do cuts edits and re-arrange clips. Putting them in the same
category as software that is intended for editing, whether it is something
as basic as Microsoft Movie Maker, begs the question of what is meant by
"editing." You can do primitive editing in VideoReDo, but it is not an
editor in the sense that most people use the term.

VideoReDo is fine for what it does (as is Scenealyzer Live), but anyone who
wants to do more than simple cuts will have to look at packages intended for
the purpose. Telling people that VideoReDo is an adequate substitute for
"real" NLE software is, to put it charitably, misleading.

As I've told you a number of times, I have no bias against VideoReDo, mpeg
capture, or the other tools of which you are so fond -- they are quite
useful for specific applications where Premiere or tmpgenc would be
overkill. You, on the other hand, seem to regard them as the Swiss Army
knife of video -- they don't even begin to come close. "The right tool for
the right job."