Pro 3CCD Camcorder complete with manuals etc...plus 4x3300mAh batteries, mic
holder, skylight filter, wide & tele lens adapters, sealtight case.
(rrp£3000)

A fantastic bit of kit - have to sell as upgrading. ONLY 25 Hrs on drum

offers around £1650.

"Paul Harrison" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
Pro 3CCD Camcorder

Pro ? Have a look what pro`s really use.

"Prosumer" starts with Sony DVCAM`format,
or POana`s DVCPro, or beta or D4.

Yours is standard DV consumer stuff, man.

Chris
Kiel, Germany

In message , Claus C. Plaass
writes
"Paul Harrison" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
Pro 3CCD Camcorder

Pro ? Have a look what pro`s really use.

"Prosumer" starts with Sony DVCAM`format,
or POana`s DVCPro, or beta or D4.

Interesting view. The BBC OB were using Sony VX1000s until late last
year when they replaced them with VC2100s.


--
Tony Morgan
http://www.rhylonline.com

Some people are so anally retentive - How many shows are done on DV today?
loads! even 28 days later was shot on a xl1s!

How many people who spend over 10k on a camera (real pro's) will look in
this newsgroup? Not many or none!!!! Grow up and take the camera from out
of your ....

Pro 3CCD Camcorder

Pro ? Have a look what pro`s really use.

"Prosumer" starts with Sony DVCAM`format,
or POana`s DVCPro, or beta or D4.

Interesting view. The BBC OB were using Sony VX1000s until late last year
when they replaced them with VC2100s.


--
Tony Morgan
http://www.rhylonline.com

"Paul Harrison" wrote in message
...
Some people are so anally retentive - How many shows are done on DV
today?

Most.

loads! even 28 days later was shot on a xl1s!


They are the exception, most UK programme makers use DigiBeta or DVPro
50, prosumer DV cameras (such as the PD150 / 170) are used but they
are only used on the cheaper productions or were it would cause
problems for a larger camera to be used.

How many people who spend over 10k on a camera (real pro's) will
look in
this newsgroup? Not many or none!!!! Grow up and take the camera
from out
of your ....


I agree, but ONLY because of the stance taken by people like Mr Morgan
who seem to feel threatened with the mere mention of professionalism
and disrupt the group when anything more than home video is
mentioned - his well used "this is a 'rec' group" type of remark.

Just take a look at the rec.video.production group, many pro's in that
group and many pure hobbyists too, both exist side by side....

In message ws.net,
":::Jerry::::" writes
I agree, but ONLY because of the stance taken by people like Mr Morgan
who seem to feel threatened with the mere mention of professionalism
and disrupt the group when anything more than home video is mentioned -
his well used "this is a 'rec' group" type of remark.

Oh, you have read the 'rec' bit. I was beginning to wonder.

I feel no sense of threat at all. It does **** me off a little when folk
start spouting off about "professionals", when if you pay attention
you'll very soon realise that they are no more than wannabees.

Professionals would not be subscribing to a group that is clearly aimed
at amateur video making.

The ones here who do claim to be professionals (most clearly are not,
judging by some of the rubbish they come out with) must find it does
wonders for their egos to make such claims. Sad really that they have so
little self-esteem that they feel the need to do so.

But since it is you 'colonic' Jerry, it is not surprising that you yet
again choose to embark on a litany of personal abuse. You really ought
to get out more.

I had removed you from my kill file (again) in the unreasonable hope
that you would contribute something useful or remotely interesting to
the group, other that your usual diatribe of personal abuse.

Back you go again....
--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

"Tony Morgan" wrote in message
...
In message
ws.net,
":::Jerry::::" writes
I agree, but ONLY because of the stance taken by people like Mr
Morgan
who seem to feel threatened with the mere mention of
professionalism
and disrupt the group when anything more than home video is
mentioned -
his well used "this is a 'rec' group" type of remark.

Oh, you have read the 'rec' bit. I was beginning to wonder.

I feel no sense of threat at all. It does **** me off a little when
folk
start spouting off about "professionals", when if you pay attention
you'll very soon realise that they are no more than wannabees.

Professionals would not be subscribing to a group that is clearly
aimed
at amateur video making.

But it doesn't have to be solely aimed at the amateur, as I pointed
out (in the bit you snipped out, no doubt 'cos it doesn't fit in with
your argument) that the rec.video.production group have both amateur
and pro co existing happily side by side in a 'rec' group and both
pro's and the amateur co-exist happily side by side in the DVdoctor
web forums - they even co-exist happily in this group when you are off
on one of your 'holidays'...


The ones here who do claim to be professionals (most clearly are
not,
judging by some of the rubbish they come out with) must find it does
wonders for their egos to make such claims. Sad really that they
have so
little self-esteem that they feel the need to do so.

.....and you would know what you are talking about then, so why have
you been found so lacking in you own 'knowledge so often (for example,
if you knew really know about Sony camcorders you would know that a/.
it was Sony who caused the problems with incompatible tape
formulations and b/. what you think are consumer VX1000's used by
broadcast companies are in fact prosumer PD150 or 170's....


But since it is you 'colonic' Jerry, it is not surprising that you
yet
again choose to embark on a litany of personal abuse. You really
ought
to get out more.

Personal abuse, were is the 'personal abuse' in the message you
replied to, what you say above if far more abusive towards me...


I had removed you from my kill file (again) in the unreasonable hope
that you would contribute something useful or remotely interesting
to
the group, other that your usual diatribe of personal abuse.

Back you go again....

Again, what abuse ?