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| I have two hard drives, let's call them HD1 and HD2. My OS, WinXP is on HD1, as is Pinnacle 9. Now, I know it's better to import the video files from my camcorder to one or t'other of Hd1 or HD2, and during a Pinaccle render to output the files to one or t'other. Which config is the best away around please? -- Bryan Bellis. Don't hit REPLY to email me, my spam trap will kill it. Use the link below instead please. To email me, go to this web page link: http://www.pcdr.co.uk/spam/antispam.html |
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| In message , Bryan Bellis writes I have two hard drives, let's call them HD1 and HD2. My OS, WinXP is on HD1, as is Pinnacle 9. Now, I know it's better to import the video files from my camcorder to one or t'other of Hd1 or HD2, and during a Pinaccle render to output the files to one or t'other. Which config is the best away around please? If you have two hard drives, it's best to: 1. Arrange the faster drive to be HD2 (in your notation). Also this drive should be NTFS rather than Win32. 2. Set up your video capture/editor to capture to HD2, and to use HD2 for temp files (that most editors use for rendering). If you have only one hard drive, then you'll have to live with it, but the drive that holds the video (for capturing and for rendering) should be NTFS. Some people will assert that with a single hard drive you should partition - something to which I don't subscribe because the disk head still has to seek across the whole of the drive between partitions. The hard drive driver also has to re-read the partition file index each time the head moves from one partition to another. Also, some will argue that you *must* have and use a second drive, which (if you have a relatively modern 7200 HD) isn't essential. -- Tony Morgan http://www.camcord.info |
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| On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:11:32 +0000, Tony Morgan wrote: In message , Bryan Bellis writes I have two hard drives, let's call them HD1 and HD2. My OS, WinXP is on HD1, as is Pinnacle 9. Now, I know it's better to import the video files from my camcorder to one or t'other of Hd1 or HD2, and during a Pinaccle render to output the files to one or t'other. Which config is the best away around please? If you have two hard drives, it's best to: 1. Arrange the faster drive to be HD2 (in your notation). Also this drive should be NTFS rather than Win32. 2. Set up your video capture/editor to capture to HD2, and to use HD2 for temp files (that most editors use for rendering). If you have only one hard drive, then you'll have to live with it, but the drive that holds the video (for capturing and for rendering) should be NTFS. Some people will assert that with a single hard drive you should partition - something to which I don't subscribe because the disk head still has to seek across the whole of the drive between partitions. The hard drive driver also has to re-read the partition file index each time the head moves from one partition to another. Also, some will argue that you *must* have and use a second drive, which (if you have a relatively modern 7200 HD) isn't essential. Sorry Tony, I should have been more specific. Both HD's are Seagate 7,200 both are NTFS, HD1 is on IDE1 with HD2 on a RAID (that's because I have a DVD Writer on IDE2 and I don't want more than one device on each cable. Pinnacle and the OS are on HD1. Thus, thought I think you answered mostly already, do I import AVI's from the camcorder to HD1 or HD2, and to I render my output MPEG to HD1 or HD2?? What's the optimal way around please? In case it comes up, I have 1 gig RAM on a AMD 3000+ system and 128 megs video RAM, not that it's relevant to the question. Forget the partition issue. For video purposes I want to use different HD's as above. -- Bryan Bellis. Don't hit REPLY to email me, my spam trap will kill it. Use the link below instead please. http://www.pcdr.co.uk/taxmaster To email me, go to this web page link: http://www.pcdr.co.uk/spam/antispam.html |
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| On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:09:15 GMT, Bryan Bellis wrote: I have two hard drives, let's call them HD1 and HD2. My OS, WinXP is on HD1, as is Pinnacle 9. Now, I know it's better to import the video files from my camcorder to one or t'other of Hd1 or HD2, and during a Pinaccle render to output the files to one or t'other. Which config is the best away around please? Doesn't matter. Windows and program files are safely in RAM. All the disk has to do is accept video. While rendering, there is indeed data being read, rendered data being written. But disk transfer speed is hardly a limiting factor. Consider how long it takes to copy a large file from one drive to another. Now consider how long it takes to render a video file. The speed you get data on and off disk doesn't come into the equation. |
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| "Tony Morgan" wrote in message ... snip Also, some will argue that you *must* have and use a second drive, which (if you have a relatively modern 7200 HD) isn't essential. No, but you would have to be a tight arsed not to considering the price of heard drives now, what's that Tony Moron, you only use one HDD.... |
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| "Laurence Payne" wrote in message ... snip Doesn't matter. Windows and program files are safely in RAM. All the disk has to do is accept video. While rendering, there is indeed data being read, rendered data being written. But disk transfer speed is hardly a limiting factor. Consider how long it takes to copy a large file from one drive to another. Now consider how long it takes to render a video file. The speed you get data on and off disk doesn't come into the equation. Yes, the operation where most errors happen is when capturing video, rendering isn't (and doesn't have to be) real time, any HDD bottle-necks can be dealt with by the software etc. - the same is not true when you have an external source being played out IYSWIM. |
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| Tony Morgan wrote: Some people will assert that with a single hard drive you should partition - something to which I don't subscribe because the disk head still has to seek across the whole of the drive between partitions. Partitioning a single drive is more about keeping data separate from the OS. Some people fix a buggered OS by trashing the drive and reinstalling - keeping the data on a separate partiton makes it safer to do that. -- Wally www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm www.wally.myby.co.uk |
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| In message , Bryan Bellis writes Pinnacle and the OS are on HD1. Thus, thought I think you answered mostly already, do I import AVI's from the camcorder to HD1 or HD2, and to I render my output MPEG to HD1 or HD2?? What's the optimal way around please? If possible, all programs/OS on HD1 and all video on HD2. If you are able to specify, all temp files on HD2. Having said that, I'm told that some video editors don't give you the option. In case it comes up, I have 1 gig RAM on a AMD 3000+ system and 128 megs video RAM, not that it's relevant to the question. Not with that amount of RAM. When someone has marginal RAM, then it can be an issue which can be avoided by not allowing anything to run in the background (Norton is terrible for eating free RAM). For general consumption I always recommend that EndItAll is run before any video work when there's a memory issue - but you're obviously OK. Forget the partition issue. For video purposes I want to use different HD's as above. I only mentioned the partition issue for anyone else lurking. And to round off, I'm told that defragging isn't so important with NTFS drives, though I do it because is speeds things up with my Acronis backup program. -- Tony Morgan http://www.camcord.info |
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| In message , ":::Jerry::::" writes No, but you would have to be a tight arsed not to considering the price of heard drives now, what's that Tony Moron, you only use one HDD. When are you going to contribute something (anything) useful to this newsgroup. All you're capable of is personal abuse. But then it obviously must do something for your ego, and get rid of some of the aggression in your personality. Do you have any friends? -- Tony Morgan http://www.camcord.info |
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| In message , Wally writes Tony Morgan wrote: Some people will assert that with a single hard drive you should partition - something to which I don't subscribe because the disk head still has to seek across the whole of the drive between partitions. Partitioning a single drive is more about keeping data separate from the OS. Some people fix a buggered OS by trashing the drive and reinstalling - keeping the data on a separate partiton makes it safer to do that. Also it helps with backups. But IME few people seem to bother - at least not with SOHO machines. -- Tony Morgan http://www.rhylonline.com |
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