Is there any freeware storyboard software that folks would recommend as
something for a beginner to learn on, play around with, and maybe get some
mileage out of if this approach works for me?


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"Wally" wrote in message
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Is there any freeware storyboard software that folks would recommend
as
something for a beginner to learn on, play around with, and maybe
get some
mileage out of if this approach works for me?


Yes, it's called a sheet of paper !...

Seriously, the simple approach is the best with story boarding, a set
of ruff sketches of your proposed shots on 'Post-It' notes and then
place those onto a larger sheet of paper, moving them around until the
scene works. If you need to copy the finished SB then either scan or
photocopy. You don't really need to be an expert in drawing, as long
as others (if needed) can see what you intend - it doesn't matter if
you end up drawing match-stick men.

:::Jerry:::: wrote:

Yes, it's called a sheet of paper !...

Thanks, but I'm not interested in messing around with bits of paper, other
than print-outs of what's developed on the computer.


Seriously, the simple approach is the best with story boarding,

Software is simple to use.


a set
of ruff sketches of your proposed shots on 'Post-It' notes and then
place those onto a larger sheet of paper, moving them around until the
scene works.

That can be done with drag-and-drop.


If you need to copy the finished SB then either scan or
photocopy.

Don't have a scanner, don't have a photocopier, do have a printer.


You don't really need to be an expert in drawing, as long
as others (if needed) can see what you intend - it doesn't matter if
you end up drawing match-stick men.

Sketching to the required standard isn't an issue - it's for my own use and
isn't particularly high. Just looking for something that will make it easier
to visualise and plan. I'm as capable sketching on computer as I am on
paper.


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Wally
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www.wally.myby.co.uk

"Wally" wrote in message
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:::Jerry:::: wrote:

Yes, it's called a sheet of paper !...

Thanks, but I'm not interested in messing around with bits of paper,
other
than print-outs of what's developed on the computer.


You want to PLAY then, you don't want an effective means of
story-boarding then.....

'nough said :~(

":::Jerry::::" wrote in message

Thanks, but I'm not interested in messing around with bits of paper,
other than print-outs of what's developed on the computer.

You want to PLAY then, you don't want an effective means of
story-boarding then.....

Please back up your insinuation that there is no such thing as effective
storyboarding software. Please supoprt your contention that the only way
that storyboarding can be done in any real sense is with bits of paper and
scribble sticks.

Before you mouth off, I suggest you avail yourself of this month's copy of
Artists And Illustrators magazine, in which a professional stroyboard artist
of major repute describes his working methods. In particular, I draw your
attention to the bits where he says that the use of computer software has
made his job much easier - easier to implement changes and edits, faster to
get the job done. If you think he's full of it, please also explain why he
manages to make a very good living while only working six months per year.

FYI, I'm as capable drawing on computer as I am on paper. I also worked in
IT for about 12 years, in a wide variaety of roles, including database
design and administration. A storyboard is a bunch of data, nothing more,
nothing less. It's my considered opinion that computers are excellent tools
for managing data. If you think this isn't so, then please explain why.

I put it to you that you're spouting abstract, traditionalist ******** -
either that, or you're a ****-poor troll. If you have reason for thinking
otherwise, then lets hear it.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:39:12 GMT, "Wally" wrote:

Is there any freeware storyboard software that folks would recommend as
something for a beginner to learn on, play around with, and maybe get some
mileage out of if this approach works for me?

Have you had a look at http://www.freefilmsoftware.co.uk/

Stuart

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"Stuart McKears" wrote in message
Is there any freeware storyboard software that folks would recommend as
something for a beginner to learn on, play around with, and maybe get some
mileage out of if this approach works for me?

Have you had a look at http://www.freefilmsoftware.co.uk/

Yup, found it last night after posting my question. Storyboard Tools looks
to be quite good to my inexperienced eye, but, knowing little about the
finer points, I'm not sure what it misses out (apart from paper and scribble
sticks), or what's redundant (apart from its property of being software that
runs on a computer).

"Wally" wrote in message
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":::Jerry::::" wrote in message

Thanks, but I'm not interested in messing around with bits of
paper,
other than print-outs of what's developed on the computer.

You want to PLAY then, you don't want an effective means of
story-boarding then.....

Please back up your insinuation that there is no such thing as
effective
storyboarding software. Please supoprt your contention that the only
way
that storyboarding can be done in any real sense is with bits of
paper and
scribble sticks.

So you want to use technology for technologies sake and not because
it's the best solution.


Before you mouth off, I suggest you avail yourself of this month's
copy of
Artists And Illustrators magazine, in which a professional
stroyboard artist
of major repute describes his working methods. In particular, I draw
your
attention to the bits where he says that the use of computer
software has
made his job much easier - easier to implement changes and edits,
faster to
get the job done. If you think he's full of it, please also explain
why he
manages to make a very good living while only working six months per
year.

If you are a pro, involved in commercial productions you would ask
your fellow pro's about what software they use (assuming that you
didn't already know), you would not be asking in a Usenet group. For
any club production or home movie there is simple no need to bother
with computer software at all for story boarding.


FYI, I'm as capable drawing on computer as I am on paper. I also
worked in
IT for about 12 years, in a wide variaety of roles, including
database
design and administration. A storyboard is a bunch of data, nothing
more,
nothing less. It's my considered opinion that computers are
excellent tools
for managing data. If you think this isn't so, then please explain
why.


How large is your screen, A1, A2, A3 paper size - No, I expect it's
not even A4 size, please do explain how you set out your scenes so
that a/. you can see in detail what shown and b/, see the 6th scene to
the left and right at the same time ?..

I put it to you that you're spouting abstract, traditionalist
******** -
either that, or you're a ****-poor troll. If you have reason for
thinking
otherwise, then lets hear it.


No, I just don't believe that a computer is the answer to all things,
even some basic editing is better done without the involvement of a
computer, only those who like to 'play' think that a computer is the
answer to everything - either that or they are the ones who are
talking ******** !

If you want to play at being a Hollywood 'screen writer' then fine,
just done dress your desire to play as being necessary to
storyboarding for the average video club member or home movie maker.

":::Jerry::::" wrote in message

So you want to use technology for technologies sake and not because
it's the best solution.

Oh, look! It's a mind-reading troll!


If you are a pro, involved in commercial productions you would ask
your fellow pro's about what software they use (assuming that you
didn't already know), you would not be asking in a Usenet group. For
any club production or home movie there is simple no need to bother
with computer software at all for story boarding.

In your opinion, troll.


How large is your screen, A1, A2, A3 paper size - No, I expect it's
not even A4 size,

You mean... ...you don't *know*, troll?


No, I just don't believe that a computer is the answer to all things,

I didn't say it was, troll. I queried it's use for storyboarding.


even some basic editing is better done without the involvement of a
computer, only those who like to 'play' think that a computer is the
answer to everything

I didn't say it was, troll.


If you want to play at being a Hollywood 'screen writer' then fine,
just done dress your desire to play as being necessary to
storyboarding for the average video club member or home movie maker.

**** off and don't tell me what approach to take, you self-absorbed,
opiniated tosspot.

"Wally" wrote in message
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Please back up your insinuation that there is no such thing as effective
storyboarding software.

I use Excel, but I think Jerry's right in that paper is the way to go (the
only reason I use Excel is because I have enough cr*p cluttering up my
workspace).

Consider the CPU muscle available to companies such as Pixar, then watch one
of their "making of" features on a DVD. They use paper pinned to the wall,
and a pointer. If there were a better solution available (and not
necessarily a software solution) don't you think they'd be using it?