"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:31:56 +0100, "RSD" wrote:

I suspect you are under the misapprehension that MiniDisk offers a
"bulk dump" data transfer function. It doesn't. You have to play
the sound in real time whether it's going to the computer by analogue
or digital cable.

It doesn´t have to go in real time!

You're speaking of NetMD? Have you seen a MD machine that has it?
Have you used it to transfer audio? What speed advantage did you
achieve?

Hi-MD as mentioned both by myself and another contibutor to this thread!
Yes,
Yes,
e.g. 5 mins of Audio transfers in seconds.

In message , Laurence Payne
writes
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:31:56 +0100, "RSD" wrote:

I suspect you are under the misapprehension that MiniDisk offers a
"bulk dump" data transfer function. It doesn't. You have to play
the sound in real time whether it's going to the computer by analogue
or digital cable.

It doesn´t have to go in real time!

You're speaking of NetMD? Have you seen a MD machine that has it?
Have you used it to transfer audio? What speed advantage did you
achieve?

I use NetMD extensively, using BeatJam on my Sharp IM-DR410 pocket
MiniDisk. Using AC-3 LP4 I can transfer 320 minutes in about eight
minutes. Using LP2 takes five minutes. As you suggested, there is an
issue because at the PC side you have to use .omg files, which impose a
restriction of three copies before being locked out. You can reset the
lockout by transferring in the reverse direction (each time you "goback"
you release one more copy). The NetMD physical link, BTW, uses USB-2. If
your PC port is USB-1 the transfer time is longer.

There is, BTW, an optical link on the Sharp, but I have never tried
using that. Whether the same restriction applies I can't say.

--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

Tony Morgan wrote:
In message , Laurence Payne
writes

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:31:56 +0100, "RSD" wrote:

I suspect you are under the misapprehension that MiniDisk offers a
"bulk dump" data transfer function. It doesn't. You have to play
the sound in real time whether it's going to the computer by analogue
or digital cable.


It doesn´t have to go in real time!


You're speaking of NetMD? Have you seen a MD machine that has it?
Have you used it to transfer audio? What speed advantage did you
achieve?


I use NetMD extensively, using BeatJam on my Sharp IM-DR410 pocket
MiniDisk. Using AC-3 LP4 I can transfer 320 minutes in about eight
minutes. Using LP2 takes five minutes. As you suggested, there is an
issue because at the PC side you have to use .omg files, which impose a
restriction of three copies before being locked out. You can reset the

Which is ludicrous in the extreme (and I suspect as useless as it is
ludicrous) if the recordings in question are my own live recordings
which I want to edit on the PC.

lockout by transferring in the reverse direction (each time you "goback"
you release one more copy). The NetMD physical link, BTW, uses USB-2. If
your PC port is USB-1 the transfer time is longer.

There is, BTW, an optical link on the Sharp, but I have never tried
using that. Whether the same restriction applies I can't say.

I gather that HiMD is a better way to go..... best to wait till prices
drop, I suspect.

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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:33:57 +0100, "RSD" wrote:

You're speaking of NetMD? Have you seen a MD machine that has it?
Have you used it to transfer audio? What speed advantage did you
achieve?

Hi-MD as mentioned both by myself and another contibutor to this thread!
Yes,
Yes,
e.g. 5 mins of Audio transfers in seconds.


OK, I appear to have done a Tony Morgan on this one! NetMD is
obviously now mainstream and working well. I hope I wasn't too rude
:-)

In message , Mike Scott
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Which is ludicrous in the extreme (and I suspect as useless as it is
ludicrous)

I'd suggest you read my post in the context that it was posted instead
of going off half-cocked ....

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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:33:57 +0100, "RSD" wrote:

You're speaking of NetMD? Have you seen a MD machine that has it?
Have you used it to transfer audio? What speed advantage did you
achieve?

Hi-MD as mentioned both by myself and another contibutor to this thread!
Yes,
Yes,
e.g. 5 mins of Audio transfers in seconds.


OK, I appear to have done a Tony Morgan on this one! NetMD is
obviously now mainstream and working well. I hope I wasn't too rude
:-)

Not at all Laurence.

Rob

"Mike Scott" wrote in message
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Sorry this is rather OT, although it's not altogether irrelevant to
digital video.

A friend has raised the issue of digital audio recording onto something
pocket-sized, with a fast copy back to PC ready for recording to CD. The
aim is to record choir practices and be able to edit these down quickly to
play on a stereo system (eg for learning while driving). The original
idea was to use a minidisk, but afaics from the manuals, and from the net,
these all have digital audio transfer back to PC inhibited for protection
of commercial materials. The only reasonably-priced MP3 recorders I've
seen have been low audio quality. It's been tried and it's not really
feasible to do the copying back in real time - it just takes too long.

Does anyone have any ideas and solutions here please? Maybe I've got hold
of totally the wrong end of the stick; but I'd not advise on buying
anything unless sure it'd solve the problem!

(At the back of my mind too is to be able to have a separate sound
recording for editing into home videos, but that's another story......)


Thanks in advance for any comments.

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I have been looking at some of the tiny portable recording studio now
avaliable,
whilst not exactly pocket size might be exactly what you are looking for.

"Headrush Films UK" wrote in message
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"Mike Scott" wrote in message
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Sorry this is rather OT, although it's not altogether irrelevant to
digital video.

A friend has raised the issue of digital audio recording onto something
pocket-sized, with a fast copy back to PC ready for recording to CD. The
aim is to record choir practices and be able to edit these down quickly
to play on a stereo system (eg for learning while driving). The original
idea was to use a minidisk, but afaics from the manuals, and from the
net, these all have digital audio transfer back to PC inhibited for
protection of commercial materials. The only reasonably-priced MP3
recorders I've seen have been low audio quality. It's been tried and
it's not really feasible to do the copying back in real time - it just
takes too long.

Does anyone have any ideas and solutions here please? Maybe I've got
hold of totally the wrong end of the stick; but I'd not advise on buying
anything unless sure it'd solve the problem!

(At the back of my mind too is to be able to have a separate sound
recording for editing into home videos, but that's another story......)


Thanks in advance for any comments.

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I have been looking at some of the tiny portable recording studio now
avaliable,
whilst not exactly pocket size might be exactly what you are looking for.

Just found the Korg pxr4
http://www.dv247.com/invt/11949?sour...gn=uk&ad=11949

Headrush Films UK wrote:
....
I have been looking at some of the tiny portable recording studio now
avaliable,
whilst not exactly pocket size might be exactly what you are looking for.


Just found the Korg pxr4
http://www.dv247.com/invt/11949?sour...gn=uk&ad=11949

mpeg1 though??? But looks possible. Thanks for the note.

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