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Do I really need DV-in or 3CCD?



 
 
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Old March 12th 05, 05:39 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Harman Sanghera
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Default Do I really need DV-in or 3CCD?

Narrowed my choice down to either Panasonic NV-GS35B (single CCD) or
NV-GS75B (3CCD,no DV-in) or NV-GS150B (3CCD,DV-in).
Price difference between 35B and 150B is £200. So a couple or more
questions for all the experts, before I spend my hard-earned:
(1) Do I really need DV-in if I'll be editing movies on my computer, and
using my DVD burner to create DVDs of the end result? Do I really need to
archive the finsihed movie back onto mini-DV tapes? Will mini-DV tapes
out-live (i.e. still be playable in 30 years time) home-burnt DVDs over the
coming years?
(2) Does having 3CCD really make a noticeable quality difference when your
movie plays back on your TV. Are the colours deeper, less grainier picture
etc. Most, if not all, of my filming will be done whilst I'm on holiday, or
in the back garden, or children's birthday parties indoors etc.
TIA


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Old March 12th 05, 08:37 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
:::Jerry::::
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Default Do I really need DV-in or 3CCD?


"Harman Sanghera" wrote in message
news
Narrowed my choice down to either Panasonic NV-GS35B (single CCD) or
NV-GS75B (3CCD,no DV-in) or NV-GS150B (3CCD,DV-in).
Price difference between 35B and 150B is £200. So a couple or more
questions for all the experts, before I spend my hard-earned:
(1) Do I really need DV-in if I'll be editing movies on my computer, and
using my DVD burner to create DVDs of the end result? Do I really need to
archive the finsihed movie back onto mini-DV tapes?


Depends exactly on what you are filming, if it's just the kids growing up
then burning a DVD and sending copies to relations than you probably don't
need to keep a 'raw' copy, but if you are filming something that might be
used later (or sold on) then yes you DO need to keep a master copy in the
best format you can (in your case DV) and I would even argue that you should
keep the original unedited camera tapes also - tape is cheap, memories /
events are not, sometimes they are un repeatable and are thus priceless.

Will mini-DV tapes
out-live (i.e. still be playable in 30 years time) home-burnt DVDs over

the
coming years?


Magnetic tape has been around for 40 years or more, it's the accepted
archiving method in mission critical work AIUI, 'home burnt' optical discs
have been around for 10 years (?), they are already causing problems...

(2) Does having 3CCD really make a noticeable quality difference when your
movie plays back on your TV. Are the colours deeper, less grainier picture
etc. Most, if not all, of my filming will be done whilst I'm on holiday,

or
in the back garden, or children's birthday parties indoors etc.


Quality is in the eye of the beholder....


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Old March 12th 05, 01:22 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
John Russell
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Default Do I really need DV-in or 3CCD?


"Harman Sanghera" wrote in message
news
Narrowed my choice down to either Panasonic NV-GS35B (single CCD) or
NV-GS75B (3CCD,no DV-in) or NV-GS150B (3CCD,DV-in).
Price difference between 35B and 150B is £200. So a couple or more
questions for all the experts, before I spend my hard-earned:
(1) Do I really need DV-in if I'll be editing movies on my computer, and
using my DVD burner to create DVDs of the end result? Do I really need to
archive the finsihed movie back onto mini-DV tapes? Will mini-DV tapes
out-live (i.e. still be playable in 30 years time) home-burnt DVDs over
the coming years?
(2) Does having 3CCD really make a noticeable quality difference when your
movie plays back on your TV. Are the colours deeper, less grainier picture
etc. Most, if not all, of my filming will be done whilst I'm on holiday,
or in the back garden, or children's birthday parties indoors etc.
TIA


If your happy paying for a more expensive model and can afford it, it dosn't
matter what you use it for.

As for archiving back to DV. It depends upon what stage you convert from DV
MPEG to DVD mpeg. Integrated packages are always compromises and don't offer
the best MPEG conversion. I prefer my editors output to remain as DV, and
then use an external transcoder.

Although you may have you video on DVD by the end of the process you may
want to archive the files held on the PC. The most obvious and valuable one
is the output from the editor. Who wants to go through the time consuming
process of rediting the source videos if an accident occurs and the DVD is
lost or damaged? If I want to "archive" the output of the editor this is
difficult as DV files are big. But they can be archived back to the camera
if DV in is supported.


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Old March 13th 05, 03:57 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Justin Cole
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Default Do I really need DV-in or 3CCD?

":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
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"Harman Sanghera" wrote in message
news
(2) Does having 3CCD really make a noticeable quality difference when

your
movie plays back on your TV. Are the colours deeper, less grainier

picture
etc. Most, if not all, of my filming will be done whilst I'm on holiday,

or
in the back garden, or children's birthday parties indoors etc.


Quality is in the eye of the beholder....


I wouldn't say 3CCD is essential unless you can really afford it. You can
get good and (relatively) bad camera's with or without 3CCD's...

Justin.


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Old March 13th 05, 06:58 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
:::Jerry::::
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Default Do I really need DV-in or 3CCD?


"Justin Cole" wrote in message
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":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
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Quality is in the eye of the beholder....


I wouldn't say 3CCD is essential unless you can really afford it. You can
get good and (relatively) bad camera's with or without 3CCD's...


Yes, the only way anyone is going to know if a camera is going to do what
they require is to actually use one - a problem in this day and age of
online / 'shed' purchasing...


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Old March 16th 05, 05:06 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Harman Sanghera
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Default Do I really need DV-in or 3CCD?


"SjT" wrote in message
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"Harman Sanghera" Kissed me, Licked me,
then left me a note:

Narrowed my choice down to either Panasonic NV-GS35B (single CCD) or
NV-GS75B (3CCD,no DV-in) or NV-GS150B (3CCD,DV-in).


*snip*

Personally, i opted for a camera without DV-In and have not regretted
it as yet, the only thing that i miss is the ability to be able to
take an analogue video source and record it on my dv tapes (Which
usually is included with DV-In enabled cams).

As for 3CCD and 1CCD, i've not 'played' with a 3CCD cam, but if you
can afford it, what the hell.. You would hope for it to be noitceably
better.

Also, you'll make me feel very jealous if you get a 3CCD, so thats a
good reason.

--
My music @ Skijump FM (Shoutcast/Winamp)
http://213.48.102.230:9174



Thanks for all you input and opinions.
Have decided to go for the NV-GS150B, £539 from "Lets Go Digital".
What the hell, its only money, and I can't take it with me!


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Old March 20th 05, 11:42 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Laurence Payne
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Default Do I really need DV-in or 3CCD?

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:58:49 -0000, ":::Jerry::::"
wrote:

Yes, the only way anyone is going to know if a camera is going to do what
they require is to actually use one - a problem in this day and age of
online / 'shed' purchasing...


Though, to be fair, it was a rare shop that let you really get to know
a camera before handing your money over.
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Old March 21st 05, 07:14 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Rich
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Default Do I really need DV-in or 3CCD?

Harman Sanghera wrote:
"SjT" wrote in message
...

"Harman Sanghera" Kissed me, Licked me,
then left me a note:


Narrowed my choice down to either Panasonic NV-GS35B (single CCD) or
NV-GS75B (3CCD,no DV-in) or NV-GS150B (3CCD,DV-in).


*snip*

Personally, i opted for a camera without DV-In and have not regretted
it as yet, the only thing that i miss is the ability to be able to
take an analogue video source and record it on my dv tapes (Which
usually is included with DV-In enabled cams).

As for 3CCD and 1CCD, i've not 'played' with a 3CCD cam, but if you
can afford it, what the hell.. You would hope for it to be noitceably
better.

Also, you'll make me feel very jealous if you get a 3CCD, so thats a
good reason.

--
My music @ Skijump FM (Shoutcast/Winamp)
http://213.48.102.230:9174




Thanks for all you input and opinions.
Have decided to go for the NV-GS150B, £539 from "Lets Go Digital".
What the hell, its only money, and I can't take it with me!



Having 3CCDs will make a huge difference to the quality of pictures you
capture but the price jump is considerable.
 




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