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| Narrowed my choice down to either Panasonic NV-GS35B (single CCD) or NV-GS75B (3CCD,no DV-in) or NV-GS150B (3CCD,DV-in). Price difference between 35B and 150B is £200. So a couple or more questions for all the experts, before I spend my hard-earned: (1) Do I really need DV-in if I'll be editing movies on my computer, and using my DVD burner to create DVDs of the end result? Do I really need to archive the finsihed movie back onto mini-DV tapes? Will mini-DV tapes out-live (i.e. still be playable in 30 years time) home-burnt DVDs over the coming years? (2) Does having 3CCD really make a noticeable quality difference when your movie plays back on your TV. Are the colours deeper, less grainier picture etc. Most, if not all, of my filming will be done whilst I'm on holiday, or in the back garden, or children's birthday parties indoors etc. TIA |
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| "Harman Sanghera" wrote in message news ![]() Narrowed my choice down to either Panasonic NV-GS35B (single CCD) or NV-GS75B (3CCD,no DV-in) or NV-GS150B (3CCD,DV-in). Price difference between 35B and 150B is £200. So a couple or more questions for all the experts, before I spend my hard-earned: (1) Do I really need DV-in if I'll be editing movies on my computer, and using my DVD burner to create DVDs of the end result? Do I really need to archive the finsihed movie back onto mini-DV tapes? Depends exactly on what you are filming, if it's just the kids growing up then burning a DVD and sending copies to relations than you probably don't need to keep a 'raw' copy, but if you are filming something that might be used later (or sold on) then yes you DO need to keep a master copy in the best format you can (in your case DV) and I would even argue that you should keep the original unedited camera tapes also - tape is cheap, memories / events are not, sometimes they are un repeatable and are thus priceless. Will mini-DV tapes out-live (i.e. still be playable in 30 years time) home-burnt DVDs over the coming years? Magnetic tape has been around for 40 years or more, it's the accepted archiving method in mission critical work AIUI, 'home burnt' optical discs have been around for 10 years (?), they are already causing problems... (2) Does having 3CCD really make a noticeable quality difference when your movie plays back on your TV. Are the colours deeper, less grainier picture etc. Most, if not all, of my filming will be done whilst I'm on holiday, or in the back garden, or children's birthday parties indoors etc. Quality is in the eye of the beholder.... |
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| "Harman Sanghera" wrote in message news ![]() Narrowed my choice down to either Panasonic NV-GS35B (single CCD) or NV-GS75B (3CCD,no DV-in) or NV-GS150B (3CCD,DV-in). Price difference between 35B and 150B is £200. So a couple or more questions for all the experts, before I spend my hard-earned: (1) Do I really need DV-in if I'll be editing movies on my computer, and using my DVD burner to create DVDs of the end result? Do I really need to archive the finsihed movie back onto mini-DV tapes? Will mini-DV tapes out-live (i.e. still be playable in 30 years time) home-burnt DVDs over the coming years? (2) Does having 3CCD really make a noticeable quality difference when your movie plays back on your TV. Are the colours deeper, less grainier picture etc. Most, if not all, of my filming will be done whilst I'm on holiday, or in the back garden, or children's birthday parties indoors etc. TIA If your happy paying for a more expensive model and can afford it, it dosn't matter what you use it for. As for archiving back to DV. It depends upon what stage you convert from DV MPEG to DVD mpeg. Integrated packages are always compromises and don't offer the best MPEG conversion. I prefer my editors output to remain as DV, and then use an external transcoder. Although you may have you video on DVD by the end of the process you may want to archive the files held on the PC. The most obvious and valuable one is the output from the editor. Who wants to go through the time consuming process of rediting the source videos if an accident occurs and the DVD is lost or damaged? If I want to "archive" the output of the editor this is difficult as DV files are big. But they can be archived back to the camera if DV in is supported. |
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| ":::Jerry::::" wrote in message ... "Harman Sanghera" wrote in message news ![]() (2) Does having 3CCD really make a noticeable quality difference when your movie plays back on your TV. Are the colours deeper, less grainier picture etc. Most, if not all, of my filming will be done whilst I'm on holiday, or in the back garden, or children's birthday parties indoors etc. Quality is in the eye of the beholder.... I wouldn't say 3CCD is essential unless you can really afford it. You can get good and (relatively) bad camera's with or without 3CCD's... Justin. |
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| "Justin Cole" wrote in message ... ":::Jerry::::" wrote in message ... snip Quality is in the eye of the beholder.... I wouldn't say 3CCD is essential unless you can really afford it. You can get good and (relatively) bad camera's with or without 3CCD's... Yes, the only way anyone is going to know if a camera is going to do what they require is to actually use one - a problem in this day and age of online / 'shed' purchasing... |
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| "SjT" wrote in message ... "Harman Sanghera" Kissed me, Licked me, then left me a note: Narrowed my choice down to either Panasonic NV-GS35B (single CCD) or NV-GS75B (3CCD,no DV-in) or NV-GS150B (3CCD,DV-in). *snip* Personally, i opted for a camera without DV-In and have not regretted it as yet, the only thing that i miss is the ability to be able to take an analogue video source and record it on my dv tapes (Which usually is included with DV-In enabled cams). As for 3CCD and 1CCD, i've not 'played' with a 3CCD cam, but if you can afford it, what the hell.. You would hope for it to be noitceably better. Also, you'll make me feel very jealous if you get a 3CCD, so thats a good reason. ![]() -- My music @ Skijump FM (Shoutcast/Winamp) http://213.48.102.230:9174 Thanks for all you input and opinions. Have decided to go for the NV-GS150B, £539 from "Lets Go Digital". What the hell, its only money, and I can't take it with me! |
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| On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:58:49 -0000, ":::Jerry::::" wrote: Yes, the only way anyone is going to know if a camera is going to do what they require is to actually use one - a problem in this day and age of online / 'shed' purchasing... Though, to be fair, it was a rare shop that let you really get to know a camera before handing your money over. |
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| Harman Sanghera wrote: "SjT" wrote in message ... "Harman Sanghera" Kissed me, Licked me, then left me a note: Narrowed my choice down to either Panasonic NV-GS35B (single CCD) or NV-GS75B (3CCD,no DV-in) or NV-GS150B (3CCD,DV-in). *snip* Personally, i opted for a camera without DV-In and have not regretted it as yet, the only thing that i miss is the ability to be able to take an analogue video source and record it on my dv tapes (Which usually is included with DV-In enabled cams). As for 3CCD and 1CCD, i've not 'played' with a 3CCD cam, but if you can afford it, what the hell.. You would hope for it to be noitceably better. Also, you'll make me feel very jealous if you get a 3CCD, so thats a good reason. ![]() -- My music @ Skijump FM (Shoutcast/Winamp) http://213.48.102.230:9174 Thanks for all you input and opinions. Have decided to go for the NV-GS150B, £539 from "Lets Go Digital". What the hell, its only money, and I can't take it with me! Having 3CCDs will make a huge difference to the quality of pictures you capture but the price jump is considerable. |
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