Something of a follow on from the post by "Munch".

I am trying to gain knowledge about the way Analogue In works.

There seem to be two options:
1 The DV Camera simply passes the message through and in to a PC
via its own Firewire connection
2 The DV Camera actually records the images from the Analogue
Camera. The DV Camera would then be able to play the images on to the
PC via Firewire.

Have I got that right? Has anyone got recommendations of each type in
the £350 range.

I would like to know what cables are used and whether they would
normally come with the DV Camera? Looking at the connection it seems
like an Audio Jack size but presumably it is different type of cable?

When asking questions at a store the salesman told me that they only
had cables for sending signals out of the DV Camera to an analogue
source (He showed me the cable which had a directional arrow to
support that statement) he said they did not sell cables for analogue
coming in to the camera. Is he correct, won't a cable carry the
message both ways?

If these cables are not commonly found does anyone know where to buy?

KM

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:04:19 GMT, km allegedly wrote:

1 The DV Camera simply passes the message through and in to a PC
via its own Firewire connection

I can only talk about the Sony cameras I've had, but they have used this
method. Conversion is on the fly. Of course, I can record to tape as
well, if I want to.

I would like to know what cables are used and whether they would
normally come with the DV Camera? Looking at the connection it seems
like an Audio Jack size but presumably it is different type of cable?

I use the standard cable that goes from the camera and splits into 3
phono plugs, one video and one each for left and right stereo. If your
source can use these, then you are set.

When asking questions at a store the salesman told me that they only
had cables for sending signals out of the DV Camera to an analogue
source

With Sony, you got (get) a converter SCART plug that accepts the 3 phono
plugs. This is wired for output only, because there are different SCART
pins for input.

(He showed me the cable which had a directional arrow to
support that statement) he said they did not sell cables for analogue
coming in to the camera. Is he correct, won't a cable carry the
message both ways?

The cable will... it just depends on how you connect it.

If these cables are not commonly found does anyone know where to buy?

It depends on the device that you are outputting from, but you can buy
from Maplin a switchable SCART lead that has 3 phonos at one end. You
choose which direction you want the signal to go. All you need then is
to make 3 leads with a female phono at each end. Anyone with a
soldering iron can make these, or they may even be available to buy.

"km" wrote in message
...
Something of a follow on from the post by "Munch".

I am trying to gain knowledge about the way Analogue In works.

There seem to be two options:
1 The DV Camera simply passes the message through and in to a PC
via its own Firewire connection
2 The DV Camera actually records the images from the Analogue
Camera. The DV Camera would then be able to play the images on to the
PC via Firewire.

Have I got that right? Has anyone got recommendations of each type in
the £350 range.

I would like to know what cables are used and whether they would
normally come with the DV Camera? Looking at the connection it seems
like an Audio Jack size but presumably it is different type of cable?

When asking questions at a store the salesman told me that they only
had cables for sending signals out of the DV Camera to an analogue
source (He showed me the cable which had a directional arrow to
support that statement) he said they did not sell cables for analogue
coming in to the camera. Is he correct, won't a cable carry the
message both ways?

If these cables are not commonly found does anyone know where to buy?

KM

The analogue cable is bi-directional if "analogue in" is supported. The
switching between "in and out" is done by the camera. It saves space not
having dedicated "in" and "out" sockets.

If the camera supports analogue in then it will probable support analogue
passthrough to DV. There is no need to record to tape when passthrough is
used.

Camera don't tend to come with DV cables, and tend to only come "composite+
audio" cables. For best quality analogue in and out you want to use s-video.

Cheaper camera don't support passthrough. but good deals can be had from
internet companies for all DV camera's.

Also there is a significant push this year for the use of True Widescreen.
If you have a widesreen TV you don't want miss out on this and should
consider paying a little extra.

For example the Sony HC32 supports "passthrough", but is not True
widescreen, and you should be able to get it for £380. If you want True
widescreen and passthrough you need the HC42 which can be had for £440.

My Canon MV600i takes vision and sound in through the AV in socket
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Vass

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:04:19 +0000, km wrote:

Something of a follow on from the post by "Munch".

I am trying to gain knowledge about the way Analogue In works.

There seem to be two options:
1 The DV Camera simply passes the message through and in to a PC
via its own Firewire connection
2 The DV Camera actually records the images from the Analogue
Camera. The DV Camera would then be able to play the images on to the
PC via Firewire.

Have I got that right? Has anyone got recommendations of each type in
the £350 range.

I would like to know what cables are used and whether they would
normally come with the DV Camera? Looking at the connection it seems
like an Audio Jack size but presumably it is different type of cable?

When asking questions at a store the salesman told me that they only
had cables for sending signals out of the DV Camera to an analogue
source (He showed me the cable which had a directional arrow to
support that statement) he said they did not sell cables for analogue
coming in to the camera. Is he correct, won't a cable carry the
message both ways?

If these cables are not commonly found does anyone know where to buy?

KM
Thanks To everyone for their guidance.

KM

"Vass" wrote in message
...

My Canon MV600i takes vision and sound in through the AV in socket
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Vass

I also have a Canon MV600i. I can do a pass-through from the computer
(Firewire) to the VCR (analogue) but when I try to go from the VCR through
to Firewire, the computer screen goes blank. Do I need to RTFM or is it not
an option with this camera, please?

Cheers,

Dave

--
"Inside every older person there is a younger one saying, "What the Hell
happened?"
Dave Hall:- www.daviv.com Webcam & videos of badgers and foxes on our patio
and bluetits in their nestbox.

"Dave Hall" queried
I also have a Canon MV600i. I can do a pass-through from the computer
(Firewire) to the VCR (analogue) but when I try to go from the VCR through
to Firewire, the computer screen goes blank. Do I need to RTFM or is it
not
an option with this camera, please?


I use the MV600i via firewire to transfer everything off tape to the Hard
drive for editing before making my DVD's
so yes you should be able to use the Firewire from Camera to PC no problem

--
Vass

"Vass" wrote in message
...

"Dave Hall" queried
I also have a Canon MV600i. I can do a pass-through from the computer
(Firewire) to the VCR (analogue) but when I try to go from the VCR
through
to Firewire, the computer screen goes blank. Do I need to RTFM or is it
not
an option with this camera, please?


I use the MV600i via firewire to transfer everything off tape to the Hard
drive for editing before making my DVD's
so yes you should be able to use the Firewire from Camera to PC no problem

--
Vass

I have found the answer. There is a button on the remote that says AV-DV.
That's cracked it. Thanks for the pointer.


--
"The more Pooh looked; the more Piglet wasn't there!" A.A.Milne
Web:- www.daviv.com Webcam & videos of badgers and foxes on our patio
and bluetits in their nestbox.

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
"Vass" wrote in message
...

"Dave Hall" queried
I also have a Canon MV600i. I can do a pass-through from the computer
(Firewire) to the VCR (analogue) but when I try to go from the VCR
through
to Firewire, the computer screen goes blank. Do I need to RTFM or is it
not
an option with this camera, please?


I use the MV600i via firewire to transfer everything off tape to the Hard
drive for editing before making my DVD's
so yes you should be able to use the Firewire from Camera to PC no
problem

--
Vass

I have found the answer. There is a button on the remote that says AV-DV.
That's cracked it. Thanks for the pointer.

You do have to remove the tape first, though!!
Dave.