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Which Camcorder do I need ?



 
 
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Old March 6th 05, 12:51 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Vass
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Default Which Camcorder do I need ?

Advice please

I have a Canon MV600i attached to a bullet cam (small external camera)
mounted to my motorbike/helmet and powered by the bikes 12V battery.

This setup works http://www.naldernet.plus.com/minehead%2011%20mins.WMV

however its a pain in the **** to use the IR remote control to start the
recording, then pack away the camera and remote
before we set off and have the camera constantly recording all the boring
bits.

I'd much prefer a camera with a LANC control that I could press on the
handlebar of the bike
to record on/off when I want. Zoom functions are not important.

Now, I hear the newer version the MV700i has this capability so great

However, I'd also like to power the camcorder from the bikes battery also so
I don't run our of charge over a weekend,

So in summary, can anyone please suggest something to match the following
criteria ?

oh and thanks in advance

Mini DV Camcorder
Must Have AV in (for the bullet cam)
Remote record button On/Off as described above
Possibility to power from external Car/Bike 12V supply (alternator may
supply up to 15 volts)


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Vass
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Now: YZF-R1, CBR1100xx-x
Then: A100, MBX80, XL125, CB400, FZR600, CBR600Fv
http://www.naldernet.plus.com/index2.html


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Old March 6th 05, 03:03 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]
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Default Which Camcorder do I need ?

Absolutely no idea, but crackin bit of footage - you really got some
pace up leaving that junction opposite the garage ;-))

Cheers for the good sunday afternoon viewing - Neil

On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 13:51:50 -0000, "Vass"
wrote:

Advice please

I have a Canon MV600i attached to a bullet cam (small external camera)
mounted to my motorbike/helmet and powered by the bikes 12V battery.

This setup works http://www.naldernet.plus.com/minehead%2011%20mins.WMV

however its a pain in the **** to use the IR remote control to start the
recording, then pack away the camera and remote
before we set off and have the camera constantly recording all the boring
bits.

I'd much prefer a camera with a LANC control that I could press on the
handlebar of the bike
to record on/off when I want. Zoom functions are not important.

Now, I hear the newer version the MV700i has this capability so great

However, I'd also like to power the camcorder from the bikes battery also so
I don't run our of charge over a weekend,

So in summary, can anyone please suggest something to match the following
criteria ?

oh and thanks in advance

Mini DV Camcorder
Must Have AV in (for the bullet cam)
Remote record button On/Off as described above
Possibility to power from external Car/Bike 12V supply (alternator may
supply up to 15 volts)


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Old March 6th 05, 03:55 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Mark Derbyshire
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Default Which Camcorder do I need ?

"Vass" came forth with the
following in uk.rec.video.digital

Advice please

Mini DV Camcorder
Must Have AV in (for the bullet cam)
Remote record button On/Off as described above
Possibility to power from external Car/Bike 12V supply (alternator may
supply up to 15 volts)



I use a Sony TRV730 and a LANC but was huge, so I've just got a Sony HC40E.
Small enough to fit in the tail piece on my ZX12R. and run the cables to
the bullet cam mounted under the front fairing. This one uses a one button
stop/start rec and hold to power down

The HC30E also has analogue in/out but has a lower ccd pixel resolution,
which don't matter for what we use it for

BTW what mike did you use as one I tried from Maplin was way to sensitive

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Old March 6th 05, 05:21 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Bill
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Default Which Camcorder do I need ?

Silly question, but are you sure your mv600i has not got a LANC socket, my
mv500i has one.
Jessops do a cheap LANC controller, about £30 I think.


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Old March 6th 05, 05:42 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Vass
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Default Which Camcorder do I need ?

"Mark Derbyshire" wrote

BTW what mike did you use as one I tried from Maplin was way to sensitive


The Mike came with the bullet camera kit
Its a tiny thing I just left in the tank bag
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Old March 6th 05, 05:45 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Vass
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Default Which Camcorder do I need ?


"Bill" wrote in message
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Silly question, but are you sure your mv600i has not got a LANC socket, my
mv500i has one.
Jessops do a cheap LANC controller, about £30 I think.


Bill where is it placed on your 500i ?

The only sockets on my 600i are

DC In 8.4V (rear below battery)
S-Video out (beneath lens)
USB (beneath lens)
Microphone (RHS just below lens)
AV In/Out (RHS just below lens)

thats all there is, I;ve searched for pictures of the 700i to see this LANC
socket
but have failed to find one
thanks
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Vass


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Old March 6th 05, 05:52 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Vass
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Default Which Camcorder do I need ?

Scrap that
I've just found this
http://www.whatcamcorder.net/reviews...00_sockets.jpg

and they unfortunatly have that extra hole at the top I guess for the LANC
control ?
They removed this for some reason on the 600i :-(
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Old March 6th 05, 09:07 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Bill
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Default Which Camcorder do I need ?


Scrap that I've just found this

http://www.whatcamcorder.net/reviews...00_sockets.jpg
and they unfortunatly have that extra hole at the top I guess for the LANC
control ? They removed this for some reason on the 600i :-(


Thats a shame, if its any help there are some mv500's for sale on ebay, what
they end up selling for is anyones guess. At least they use the same
batteries as the 600, you may get a bargin or not.
Regarding powering from your bike, I think maplin have multi-voltage
adapters, but you'd need to chop the connector off of the canon power supply
because I've not seen a connector like that one before (doen't mean they're
not out there). As long as it outputs 7.4 (the battery voltage) and 8.4 (the
input supply) you should be OK, but remember to check the polaritity before
cutting and again after fixing.
I do wonder how easy it would be to control the LANC device with thick
motorcycle gloves on though, very small buttons.

Bill.



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Old March 6th 05, 11:24 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Mark Derbyshire
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Default Which Camcorder do I need ?

"Bill" came forth with the following in
uk.rec.video.digital

Scrap that I've just found this

http://www.whatcamcorder.net/reviews...onMV500_socket
s.jpg


I do wonder how easy it would be to control the LANC device with thick
motorcycle gloves on though, very small buttons.

Bill.


This one

http://www.rfconcepts.co.uk/lanc_sports.htm

Piece of **** to use even with gloves on :0)

The LED's are bright enough to let you know what mode your're in on a bike

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Old March 7th 05, 12:33 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
G Hardy
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Default Which Camcorder do I need ?

"Vass" wrote in message
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I have a Canon MV600i attached to a bullet cam (small external camera)
mounted to my motorbike/helmet and powered by the bikes 12V battery.


LOL Vass - you're still not set up from nearly 6 months ago?
http://tinyurl.com/65unb

Or maybe the disparate advice you got last time left you none the wiser.
About the best I could come up with (without using Lanc) was a fibreoptic
connection from camera remote IR-out, strapped to your bike, leading to the
camera IR in in your bag. Not ideal, but without a Lanc camera, I think
you're looking at an ancient camera with a wired "remote".

It sounds like you're after a replacement camera now, though, so buying a
Lanc-enabled one is a possibility.

As to the power issue - no idea. Do bikes have a 12V supply similar to those
supplied in cars (I know they won't have cig lighters - why would they, on a
bike?) but if there's a built-in way to get 12V from the battery then you'd
just need to hack apart the penis-shape plug for the appropriate voltage
adapter for your camera model. I think.


 




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