On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 14:24:54 +0000, Tony Morgan
wrote:

In message , Stuart McKears
writes
Snipped bit from super-colon(ic) ':::Jerry::::'.

I suspect that it's the usual Morgan confusion equating SVHS to SVideo.

And I suspect that it's you who are confusing me with the poster who
made the case for S-video by saying that SVHS machines always have a
S-video connnector.

Please do try to keep up, and please try not to emulate colon(ic) Jerry
in putting words in my mouth.

Typical abusive Morgan reply, trying to divert attention away from his ignorance

What he actually said:

Since you go on about "concrete evidence", I'd remind you that S-video
will give a maximum line resolution of 460,

So Morgan, supply the "concrete" evidence that S-Video has a "maximum line
resolution of 460"








Stuart

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In message , Stuart McKears
writes
Since you go on about "concrete evidence", I'd remind you that S-video
will give a maximum line resolution of 460,

So Morgan, supply the "concrete" evidence that S-Video has a "maximum
line resolution of 460"

An engineer at Kontron Instruments where I worked measured it. In the
event, DVI was selected, though S-Video was provided to allow recording
on "standard" VCRs in teaching environments. This was for medical
monitoring equipment.

So what do you say it is? No doubt you've got resolution test cards, so
I'd be interested in what line resolution you get.
--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 18:17:31 +0000, Tony Morgan
wrote:

In message , Stuart McKears
writes
Since you go on about "concrete evidence", I'd remind you that S-video
will give a maximum line resolution of 460,

So Morgan, supply the "concrete" evidence that S-Video has a "maximum
line resolution of 460"

An engineer at Kontron Instruments where I worked measured it. In the
event, DVI was selected, though S-Video was provided to allow recording
on "standard" VCRs in teaching environments. This was for medical
monitoring equipment.

So what do you say it is? No doubt you've got resolution test cards, so
I'd be interested in what line resolution you get.

For goodness sake, S-Video is just an analog connection between two pieces of
video equipment just like component though in some respects better.

The "resolution" depends on the equipment at either end.

Yes, any analog connection is lossy but it's a percentage loss not an absolute
loss.

Stuart

www.mckears.com
www.oldfart.tv - have your say about the state of UK Television

"Stuart McKears" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 18:17:31 +0000, Tony Morgan
wrote:

In message , Stuart McKears
writes
Since you go on about "concrete evidence", I'd remind you that S-video
will give a maximum line resolution of 460,

So Morgan, supply the "concrete" evidence that S-Video has a "maximum
line resolution of 460"

An engineer at Kontron Instruments where I worked measured it. In the
event, DVI was selected, though S-Video was provided to allow recording
on "standard" VCRs in teaching environments. This was for medical
monitoring equipment.

So what do you say it is? No doubt you've got resolution test cards, so
I'd be interested in what line resolution you get.

For goodness sake, S-Video is just an analog connection between two pieces
of
video equipment just like component though in some respects better.

The "resolution" depends on the equipment at either end.

Yes, any analog connection is lossy but it's a percentage loss not an
absolute
loss.

Stuart

It's accepted by most people that there is a "pecking" order when connecting
video via analogue. RF is at the bottom, then composite, s-video ,and then
RGB or component.

If you want to display you camcorder video on TV you can either keep the
high quality of DV and connect by analog, or render down to DVD and still
connect using analog via the DVD player. There is no direct option to
connect your camcorder to a TV via I-link even if the quality of that is
better.

If you decide "quality is paramount" and connect you camcorder diectly, you
lose much of the benefits doing so via composite, which contains nasty
interactions between chromanace and luminence. The best "possible" link is
s-video, in the absence of RGB or component outputs on "home" camcorders.

On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 11:04:24 -0000, "John Russell"
wrote:

It's accepted by most people that there is a "pecking" order when connecting
video via analogue. RF is at the bottom, then composite, s-video ,and then
RGB or component.

If you want to display you camcorder video on TV you can either keep the
high quality of DV and connect by analog, or render down to DVD and still
connect using analog via the DVD player. There is no direct option to
connect your camcorder to a TV via I-link even if the quality of that is
better.

If you decide "quality is paramount" and connect you camcorder diectly, you
lose much of the benefits doing so via composite, which contains nasty
interactions between chromanace and luminence. The best "possible" link is
s-video, in the absence of RGB or component outputs on "home" camcorders.

I agree with all of that but I don't believe there is any perceivable difference
between s-video and component for viewing only.

Stuart

www.mckears.com
www.oldfart.tv - have your say about the state of UK Television

With clockwork regularity when you see an excessively long thread you can
almost guarantee that it's due to the condescending pedant that is Tony
Morgan.

One only needs to have a look at the vitality (or lack thereof) of this NG
to see what a destructive influence this man has. Debate is quashed because
of his acerbic replies to anyone that dares ask a stupid question or
question his knowledge.

I admit, that I really only turn up every now and then to satisfy my morbid
curiosity. I just flick down the longest threads with the knowledge that the
133 posts relating to the seemingly simple subject heading of 'What is the
best NLE?' is the work of none other than the worlds largest Troll, Tony
Morgan. (The Irony of this I'm sure won't be lost on you all)

Guys and gals...I implore you, if you really want a friendly helpful group
of people that are interested in solving solutions rather than being
churlish pedants go here...

www.creativecow.net


The shame is that Tony knows a hell of a lot but is absolutely incapable of
dispensing this information without attempting to belittle those he
dispenses it too...


However, if like me you like to occasionally watch a NG turn in on itself
and watch Tony like some embarrassing drunken uncle trying to feel your
mothers ass whilst regaling a totally bored group of hostages about how good
he was in the good old days....then stick around....






*SNIP*
Dave is 101 percent correct when he say that " With you it's "I'm right!",
and you disappear from any thread where concrete evidence is given to the
opposite. ", basically I suspect that you know you're wrong but your ego
just won't allow you to either gracefully walk away or horror of horrors
apologise.