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Copying from Camera to DVD?



 
 
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Old April 3rd 04, 11:59 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Fadel Ibrahim
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How can I copy a film in my digital camcorder to a DVD? Do I have to go
through transferring the film to the computer, use Adobe Premiere (or
Pinnacle) and then export the film to the DVD burner or can I somehow go
directly from camera to DVD?
Thanks for any help
Fadel


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Old April 3rd 04, 12:24 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
John Russell
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"Fadel Ibrahim" wrote in message
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How can I copy a film in my digital camcorder to a DVD? Do I have to go
through transferring the film to the computer, use Adobe Premiere (or
Pinnacle) and then export the film to the DVD burner or can I somehow go
directly from camera to DVD?
Thanks for any help
Fadel



Some products can go directly to DVD burners using DVD-VR, the format used
by home DVD recorders. But then you'd have to have a home dvd recorder to
play it!



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Old April 3rd 04, 02:33 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Robin Davies-Rollinson
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"Fadel Ibrahim" wrote in message
...
How can I copy a film in my digital camcorder to a DVD? Do I have to go
through transferring the film to the computer, use Adobe Premiere (or
Pinnacle) and then export the film to the DVD burner or can I somehow go
directly from camera to DVD?
Thanks for any help
Fadel



Roxio Easy CD & DVD Creator 6 (there's version 7 out now as well)
will allow you to capture straight from camera to DVD (via PC of course)
You'll need a DVD burner as well, either internal or stand-alone with
Firewire connection.
You can even capture straight to PC and edit (simply) within the Roxio
programme.

Robin.


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Old April 3rd 04, 07:33 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Dmitri Shvetsov
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Hi John Russell

You can create a standard video DVD, a Super Video CD or a Video CD, using
Nero - www.ahead.de if you installed special plug-ins for that. In this case
all you need is to select a format of disk, then drug-n-drop the file, Nero
will transform this video file to a required format and create a CD or DVD.
I don't tell about the quality, but sometimes it's acceptable.

Regards,
Dmitri.

How can I copy a film in my digital camcorder to a DVD? Do I have to go
through transferring the film to the computer, use Adobe Premiere (or
Pinnacle) and then export the film to the DVD burner or can I somehow

go
directly from camera to DVD?


Some products can go directly to DVD burners using DVD-VR, the format used
by home DVD recorders. But then you'd have to have a home dvd recorder to
play it!


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Old April 3rd 04, 07:58 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Tony Morgan
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Default Copying from Camera to DVD?

In message _jEbc.97422$Bg.58447@fed1read03, Dmitri Shvetsov
writes
Snipped....

You can create a standard video DVD, a Super Video CD or a Video CD,
using Nero - www.ahead.de if you installed special plug-ins for that.
In this case all you need is to select a format of disk, then
drug-n-drop the file, Nero will transform this video file to a required
format and create a CD or DVD. I don't tell about the quality, but
sometimes it's acceptable.


MyDVD 5.2 has a 'Direct To DVD' wizard. The resulting quality might be
considered by some to be a little wanting.
--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info
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Old April 3rd 04, 10:52 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
John Russell
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"Dmitri Shvetsov" wrote in message
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Hi John Russell

You can create a standard video DVD, a Super Video CD or a Video CD, using
Nero - www.ahead.de if you installed special plug-ins for that. In this

case
all you need is to select a format of disk, then drug-n-drop the file,

Nero
will transform this video file to a required format and create a CD or

DVD.
I don't tell about the quality, but sometimes it's acceptable.

Regards,
Dmitri.


The original poster said "directly to DVD". I assummed he wanted minimal use
of the hard drive as used in conventional authoring i.e. avi to MPEG to
image, finally burn.


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Old April 3rd 04, 11:22 PM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
John Russell
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"Fadel Ibrahim" wrote in message
...
How can I copy a film in my digital camcorder to a DVD? Do I have to go
through transferring the film to the computer, use Adobe Premiere (or
Pinnacle) and then export the film to the DVD burner or can I somehow go
directly from camera to DVD?
Thanks for any help
Fadel



Ulead MovieFactory3 has a "direct to disk" option which will create all
types of disk , not just DVD-VR.


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Old April 4th 04, 02:34 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Dmitri Shvetsov
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Hi John,

I think that he wanted to do that without any additional movements. If you
want to put this stream directly to DVD, then you need to have something
like Pentium VI at 30 GHz or a cluster of few current machines. Otherwise
you need to recode the stream before writing it. Am I right? Directly can
mean that you don't do anything to write to DVD, but even if you write
something the writing program should work with hard drive.

My PIV-HT-3.2 GHz can compress the 3-4 minutes song in a good quality joint
stereo MP3 at 192 kbit/sec in 15 seconds, but to compress video.. It takes
much more time.

Dmitri.

"John Russell"

You can create a standard video DVD, a Super Video CD or a Video CD,

using
Nero - www.ahead.de if you installed special plug-ins for that. In this

case all you need is to select a format of disk, then drug-n-drop the

file,
Nero will transform this video file to a required format and create a CD

or
DVD. II don't tell about the quality, but sometimes it's acceptable.


The original poster said "directly to DVD". I assummed he wanted minimal

use
of the hard drive as used in conventional authoring i.e. avi to MPEG to
image, finally burn.


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Old April 4th 04, 03:02 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
Tony Morgan
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Default Copying from Camera to DVD?

In message UuKbc.101979$Bg.21639@fed1read03, Dmitri Shvetsov
writes
Snipped....

I think that he wanted to do that without any additional movements. If
you want to put this stream directly to DVD, then you need to have
something like Pentium VI at 30 GHz or a cluster of few current
machines. Otherwise you need to recode the stream before writing it. Am
I right? Directly can mean that you don't do anything to write to DVD,
but even if you write something the writing program should work with
hard drive.

My PIV-HT-3.2 GHz can compress the 3-4 minutes song in a good quality
joint stereo MP3 at 192 kbit/sec in 15 seconds, but to compress video..
It takes much more time.


Well said.

We tend to forget that converting one video format to another takes a
bunch of processing power. Even more so when we remind ourselves that
the PC has to keep up with video and sound which is streaming off minDV
at about 3.4GB per second, process it to another format, *and* write it
out to DVD - all effectively in real-time (if we are to satisfy the OP).

Even just wrapping the DV into AVI and writing it to hard disk can
sometimes lead to dropped frames - if things aren't quite as they should
be. And then (though it's a generalisation) the faster codecs seem to
sacrifice quality for speed.
--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info
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Old April 4th 04, 09:06 AM posted to uk.rec.video.digital
John Russell
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Default Copying from Camera to DVD?


"Dmitri Shvetsov" wrote in message
news:UuKbc.101979$Bg.21639@fed1read03...
Hi John,

I think that he wanted to do that without any additional movements. If you
want to put this stream directly to DVD, then you need to have something
like Pentium VI at 30 GHz or a cluster of few current machines. Otherwise
you need to recode the stream before writing it. Am I right? Directly can
mean that you don't do anything to write to DVD, but even if you write
something the writing program should work with hard drive.

My PIV-HT-3.2 GHz can compress the 3-4 minutes song in a good quality

joint
stereo MP3 at 192 kbit/sec in 15 seconds, but to compress video.. It takes
much more time.

Dmitri.

"John Russell"


Many DVD specific products have excellent MPEG2 real time compressors as
these are used to capture directly in MPEG2. DVD burning speeds are more
than adequate to burn in real time. The "direct to disk mode" will work like
a continual flow system, with small blocks of data progressing from captured
MPEG to burnt DVD. The PC could buffer these small blocks in memory wothout
using the hard drive.



 




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