I am capturing from and analogue signal and want to get the best possible
quality. I am converting old VHS tapes to DVD. I believe that uncompressed
AVI is the way to go, but the files are HUGE. I have 80Gb available , but
this isn't nearly enough for a few hours. What other formats give good
results but are not so memory hungry?

"Leigh Tristram" wrote in message
. au...
I am capturing from and analogue signal and want to get the best possible
quality. I am converting old VHS tapes to DVD. I believe that
uncompressed
AVI is the way to go, but the files are HUGE. I have 80Gb available , but
this isn't nearly enough for a few hours. What other formats give good
results but are not so memory hungry?



Since your aim is to produce a DVD then try MPEG2. Most editors will be
intelligent enough to not re-render your original MPEG2 captures so there
will be no further loss in quality during in the preperation of the DVD
files. Also software designed specifically for DVD/MPEG2 have very good
realtime MPEG2 codecs for capturing purposes, something you can't always say
for AVI optimised products such as Pinnacle Studio.

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"Leigh Tristram" wrote in message
.au...
I am capturing from and analogue signal and want to get the best possible
quality. I am converting old VHS tapes to DVD. I believe that
uncompressed
AVI is the way to go, but the files are HUGE. I have 80Gb available , but
this isn't nearly enough for a few hours. What other formats give good
results but are not so memory hungry?



Since your aim is to produce a DVD then try MPEG2. Most editors will be
intelligent enough to not re-render your original MPEG2 captures so there
will be no further loss in quality during in the preperation of the DVD
files. Also software designed specifically for DVD/MPEG2 have very good
realtime MPEG2 codecs for capturing purposes, something you can't always say
for AVI optimised products such as Pinnacle Studio.

Sorry folks, but AVI is nothing more than a container for some other
format. An AVI file can contain DV, MPEG-2 or MPEG-1 (or anything else
for that matter).

You can download YAAI from http://yaai.sourceforge.net/ which will tell
you just what format a particular AVI file contains (and usually which
codec was used to produce it). You can also use YAAI to sync the audio
stream to the video stream (subject to the particular format that the
AVI contains).


--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

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"Leigh Tristram" wrote in message
.au...
I am capturing from and analogue signal and want to get the best
possible
quality. I am converting old VHS tapes to DVD. I believe that
uncompressed
AVI is the way to go, but the files are HUGE. I have 80Gb available ,
but
this isn't nearly enough for a few hours. What other formats give good
results but are not so memory hungry?



Since your aim is to produce a DVD then try MPEG2. Most editors will be
intelligent enough to not re-render your original MPEG2 captures so there
will be no further loss in quality during in the preperation of the DVD
files. Also software designed specifically for DVD/MPEG2 have very good
realtime MPEG2 codecs for capturing purposes, something you can't always
say
for AVI optimised products such as Pinnacle Studio.

Sorry folks, but AVI is nothing more than a container for some other
format. An AVI file can contain DV, MPEG-2 or MPEG-1 (or anything else
for that matter).

.....mean while in the real world. Most editing products which natively
support AVI do not support MPEG2 without a plug in, and then create mpeg
files not AVI. The fact that AVI can contain MPEG is irrelevent unless you
can point to a video capture program which does capture MPEG as an AVI file.

"John Russell" wrote in message
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In message , John Russell
writes

"Leigh Tristram" wrote in message
.au...
I am capturing from and analogue signal and want to get the best
possible
quality. I am converting old VHS tapes to DVD. I believe that
uncompressed
AVI is the way to go, but the files are HUGE. I have 80Gb available ,
but
this isn't nearly enough for a few hours. What other formats give
good
results but are not so memory hungry?



Since your aim is to produce a DVD then try MPEG2. Most editors will be
intelligent enough to not re-render your original MPEG2 captures so
there
will be no further loss in quality during in the preperation of the DVD
files. Also software designed specifically for DVD/MPEG2 have very good
realtime MPEG2 codecs for capturing purposes, something you can't
always
say
for AVI optimised products such as Pinnacle Studio.

Sorry folks, but AVI is nothing more than a container for some other
format. An AVI file can contain DV, MPEG-2 or MPEG-1 (or anything else
for that matter).

....mean while in the real world. Most editing products which natively
support AVI do not support MPEG2 without a plug in, and then create mpeg
files not AVI. The fact that AVI can contain MPEG is irrelevent unless you
can point to a video capture program which does capture MPEG as an AVI
file.



P.S. which clealy his current softwares dosn't otherwise he wouldn't be
having the problem of huge AVI files!

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In message , John Russell
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"Leigh Tristram" wrote in message
.au...
I am capturing from and analogue signal and want to get the best
possible
quality. I am converting old VHS tapes to DVD. I believe that
uncompressed
AVI is the way to go, but the files are HUGE. I have 80Gb available ,
but
this isn't nearly enough for a few hours. What other formats give good
results but are not so memory hungry?



Since your aim is to produce a DVD then try MPEG2. Most editors will be
intelligent enough to not re-render your original MPEG2 captures so there
will be no further loss in quality during in the preperation of the DVD
files. Also software designed specifically for DVD/MPEG2 have very good
realtime MPEG2 codecs for capturing purposes, something you can't always
say
for AVI optimised products such as Pinnacle Studio.

Sorry folks, but AVI is nothing more than a container for some other
format. An AVI file can contain DV, MPEG-2 or MPEG-1 (or anything else
for that matter).

....mean while in the real world.

The real world is when you specify just what type of format that is
contained within an AVI. Using the term "AVI" without qualification is
absolutely meaningless.

Most editing products which natively
support AVI do not support MPEG2 without a plug in,

I can't believe you've said that Even if you can't see a codec, there's
one in there somewhere. Otherwise it wouldn't encode/decode.

and then create mpeg
files not AVI. The fact that AVI can contain MPEG is irrelevent

Nonsense.

unless you
can point to a video capture program which does capture MPEG as an AVI file.

Most half-decent video editors support as many codecs as you can throw a
stick at. And most will start-up with the last used codec.

Still if you must bandy about terms that are meaningless without
qualification, I'm not going to argue with you.
--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

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"Tony Morgan" wrote in message
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In message , John Russell
writes

"Leigh Tristram" wrote in message
.au...
I am capturing from and analogue signal and want to get the best
possible
quality. I am converting old VHS tapes to DVD. I believe that
uncompressed
AVI is the way to go, but the files are HUGE. I have 80Gb available
,
but
this isn't nearly enough for a few hours. What other formats give
good
results but are not so memory hungry?



Since your aim is to produce a DVD then try MPEG2. Most editors will
be
intelligent enough to not re-render your original MPEG2 captures so
there
will be no further loss in quality during in the preperation of the
DVD
files. Also software designed specifically for DVD/MPEG2 have very
good
realtime MPEG2 codecs for capturing purposes, something you can't
always
say
for AVI optimised products such as Pinnacle Studio.

Sorry folks, but AVI is nothing more than a container for some other
format. An AVI file can contain DV, MPEG-2 or MPEG-1 (or anything else
for that matter).

....mean while in the real world.

The real world is when you specify just what type of format that is
contained within an AVI. Using the term "AVI" without qualification is
absolutely meaningless.

Most editing products which natively
support AVI do not support MPEG2 without a plug in,

I can't believe you've said that Even if you can't see a codec, there's
one in there somewhere. Otherwise it wouldn't encode/decode.

and then create mpeg
files not AVI. The fact that AVI can contain MPEG is irrelevent

Nonsense.

unless you
can point to a video capture program which does capture MPEG as an AVI
file.

Most half-decent video editors support as many codecs as you can throw a
stick at. And most will start-up with the last used codec.

Still if you must bandy about terms that are meaningless without
qualification, I'm not going to argue with you.
--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

If you can't be bothered to help people I don't know why you bother posting.
You seem to get off on critising other posters answers when on a NG no
answer is every going to be complete. Unless of course there from a pompous
oaf who produces some great long winded answer that no one can be bothered
to read!

On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 09:01:59 +1000, "Leigh Tristram"
wrote:

I am capturing from and analogue signal and want to get the best possible
quality. I am converting old VHS tapes to DVD. I believe that uncompressed
AVI is the way to go, but the files are HUGE. I have 80Gb available , but
this isn't nearly enough for a few hours. What other formats give good
results but are not so memory hungry?


depends upon what software and hardware you have.

capture as pal dv avi
720x576 , 25 fps , 48khz audio

edit

then output as mpeg2 for easy authoring to dvd.

so

what hardware ?
what software do you have ?

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If you can't be bothered to help people

Talking absolute crap helps no one. In fact it's quite the reverse.

I don't know why you bother posting.

Because someone might believe what you have said if it doesn't go
unchallenged.

You seem to get off on critising other posters answers when on a NG no
answer is every going to be complete. Unless of course there from a
pompous oaf who produces some great long winded answer that no one can
be bothered to read!

No, I don't get off on anything here. But if you talk rubbish I'll say
so. And if it hurts your ego when I do so, you might perhaps hesitate
before giving false or incorrect information in the first instance, or
arguing the toss when it's pointed out to you.

Be grown up enough to admit that you were talking crap for goodness
sake, John. You might consider the premise that giving false or
incorrect information here does no good to anyone.
--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

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In message , John Russell
writes
Snipped....

If you can't be bothered to help people

Talking absolute crap helps no one. In fact it's quite the reverse.

Quite correct Tony, just you remember that too....


I don't know why you bother posting.

Because someone might believe what you have said if it doesn't go
unchallenged.

Quite correct Tony, just you remember that too....


You seem to get off on critising other posters answers when on a NG no
answer is every going to be complete. Unless of course there from a
pompous oaf who produces some great long winded answer that no one can
be bothered to read!

No, I don't get off on anything here. But if you talk rubbish I'll say
so. And if it hurts your ego when I do so, you might perhaps hesitate
before giving false or incorrect information in the first instance, or
arguing the toss when it's pointed out to you.

Quite correct Tony, just you remember that too....


Be grown up enough to admit that you were talking crap for goodness
sake, John. You might consider the premise that giving false or
incorrect information here does no good to anyone.

Quite correct Tony, just you remember that too....

In short - Pot, Kettle, Black !