Baird

You're obviously are very naive', reviews are dictated by advertisers,
underwriters,
authors undisclosed associations etc. Long established in the audio/HiFi
sectors,
now in every consumer electronics areana.

It depends on the source of the info. There are consumer reviews as well.
Here is one of the examples at www.newegg.com. This web site is very
efficient, people write about their own experience, I do too, and negative
if required as well. But it doesn't mean that I absolutely trust this
source, it just gives me some food, the direction to make my own tests. If I
read about some serious troubles with this or that I never step on the same
rakes. But there were some situations when the customer was not simply able
to correctly understand and test the device and published a serious
complaint. The devices were better that it was published and I could verify
and confirm that.

This is a UK group, we are European. The issue you floated on is global
not just European.

I know, but sometimes the laws are so different, that we could expect
absolutely different approaches to the same issues.

I really do because I'm a professional software developer and know these
things much better than the most people in the world.

I don't believe you. In the thread below this one which you authored
entitled
"DV = Computer" you reveal how little you know, you can't even get the
terms
correct stating "fireware" for firewire etc. Basically archiving DV
footage

You never make typos, right? Take a closer look at your own text below and
smile. Did you type all words right?

You obviously learned very little from so many years experiance.

done to DVD, long established. But though you own a camcorder your request
was for a device to copy to PC, exactly what your existing camcorder can
do!

I think you didn't read another thread or focused on something else. I just
wanted to finally trade this camcorder in and replace it with something
else. I'm really tired working with the tapes, it's not only slow and
inconvenient, but I already had problems with the camcorder when it
destroyed one important record and I had to send it to Canon to fix it. It
suddenly stopped working with the tapes chewing them. Sounds like Ooops! Or
maybe F.. in your style. Also the SDHC card is more convenient because you
can simply delete something randomly and use this space right away. You
can't do that wi the tapes. The problem is that I already got many tapes I'd
like to keep the access to. That's why I posted another thread asking for a
possible device. I know if exists it can be very simple and cheap,
especially comparing to semi-pro camcorders that are pricey. That was the
idea. If we're talking about digital record, then the quality of the record
should not be affected when we use a heavy GL2 vs. something cheap to copy
it from the DV tape to the computer.

The codec is a very important part for sure. I tested many different apps
and got stuck on Vegas, thanks to Jerry, who recommended me this Vegas
several years ago here in this newsgroup. It's able to provide me a very
good broadcast quality, producing a 2-hr movie written on 1 regular 4.5GB
DVD.

ALL authoring software will produce 2 hr DVD's at the set criteria for the

Yes, but the results are very different because different software uses
different algorithms and even different implementations of same algorithms
can bring you absolutely different results. Even different settings in just
one codec can make you happy or unhappy if you really have access to them. I
don't think you're very surprised here. And btw, if you compare a more
compressed higher resolution photo or video frame it visually brings you
more details that the file of the same size with less compression and lower
resolution. Try that out.

DVD standard bitrate. And again you betray your lack of knowledge, one
"regular" DVD is 4.7gb not 4.5gb

I know how to divide by 1024*1024*1024 or by 1000*1000*1000 It reminds me
one joke:
- How much is 2 times 2?
- Are we selling or buying?

Well, I usually overburn disks getting greater capacity. But taking that
more seriously, the CD/DVD standards require an additional info like TOC,
lead out, etc., so the real size of what you record is a little smaller that
you want. If you want to place a video menu it already eats a serious amount
of space, etc. I don't want to stop at these obvious things. But you can say
it's not related to 4.5 vs. 4.7 for sure. Well, you can buy a 1 TB drive,
realistically it's smaller because of the 1024 vs. 1000 trick and you should
know that. Some applications calculate sizes more realistically. For example
if you know what Acronis is you can try to split files by 4.7GB as you wrote
before. You'll never be able to record these files to the DVD because they
are bigger than the capacity of the disk. I just restarted this app
especially for you. You will be surprised, but it shows the DVD size as 4.34
GB and this number is real. If you burn this file and look at the working
side of the DVD the whole surface is occupied by the file. But realistically
the file size made by this app is 4,660,039,516 bytes. If you want to make a
better impression and sell this size then it can be easily rounded to 4.66GB
or even to 4.7GB (ignoring 1024). You can't disagree that 4.7GB sounds much
better than 4.66GB - such a strange number! But even 4.66 is incorrect. But
like you wrote before - don't be naive and make your math!

So I never trust the label on the disks showing me 4.7 GB. It's just a part
of the game that we all play and most of us know the real situation.

And please be more tolerant if you already understood what somebody wrote
about, life is short, but we get that only when we're getting older.

Good luck!

Just D.